What Army Is The Best in The World

[iGrOCk]

i want your feedback on, and write a list of what u think the best army's or an army in the world considering its mobility, troop numbers, weaponry, equpment, skill. post coments and what u feel is the best. hope this thread will be long and intresting for a good debate.

here is a list i can tell u right now in my opinion.

1. Russia, US, China (cant really say which is the best, but they are the strongest in the world.
2. N. Korea
3. UK
4. Israel
5. India
6. Italy
7. France
8. Pakistan
9. Iran

post your own opinions and order of what army u think is sronger

[Soviet78]

Originally posted by iGrOCk
i want your feedback on, and write a list of what u think the best army's or an army in the world considering its mobility, troop numbers, weaponry, equpment, skill. post coments and what u feel is the best. hope this thread will be long and intresting for a good debate.

here is a list i can tell u right now in my opinion.

1. Russia, US, China (cant really say which is the best, but they are the strongest in the world.
2. N. Korea
3. UK
4. Israel
5. India
6. Italy
7. France
8. Pakistan
9. Iran

post your own opinions and order of what army u think is sronger

Oh, I'm sure this will be a long debate. But as for my personal opinion, I think that the United States has the strongest army. Russia's is slowly deteriorating (due to lack of money) and China's is catching up but not quite there yet.

I don't really know too much about current militaries of other countries, so I'll leave it at my uninformed opinion of Russia's/China's/Us's armies.

[iGrOCk]

hmmm i am not sure if i can agree with u on the russia's place as a militery power in the world. Russia's economy has been rising in a very large numbers and i mean large. it has only been 13 years since the falls of Soviet Union, and now see how a whole lot beter russia is doin.i am not saying russia has been doing bad during soviet times, as far as i know soviet union was the superior power in 1960's, the stongest sountry in the world. rusia has always been a great country, 1 reason so many smart scientists and rish people left russia during the sovit times was because of stalin and lenin, since they were kiling people for nothing. yes some parts of russia is in a bad condition, but last time i checked US's 40% is living in poverty

Us has a good militery, mobility but have u checked sites with all the new russian tech, and there is a whole lot that we dont even know about since no country is going to release its secret plans.

Russia is on the rise and as far as i am conserned russian militry is one of the superior in numbers and power. ye some parts of it is bad but hey its coming together for an even stronger power.

[Soviet78]

iGrOCk:

"hmmm i am not sure if i can agree with u on the russia's place as a militery power in the world. Russia's economy has been rising in a very large numbers and i mean large."

I wouldn't say that the economy is rising too fast when growth is less than 10 percent per year. I also urge you to consider the fact that the economy has fallen, over the last 13 years, very largely in a negative direction (don't want to give you a false statistic).

"it has only been 13 years since the falls of Soviet Union, and now see how a whole lot beter russia is doin."

Sorry to ask, but do you live in Russia? The areas of the country I've been too aren't doing a 'lot better'. In fact, I've seen a lot of deterioration. Moscow is much better of course, with all of the rich residing here. However, the majority of Muscovites still remains poor as well.


"i am not saying russia has been doing bad during soviet times, as far as i know soviet union was the superior power in 1960's, the stongest sountry in the world."


Well, it was certainly a powerful country at the time, and the economy was growing very quickly. In terms of the military as well, it was a powerful nation. But to say that it was the strongest country in the world would not, in my opinion, be accurate. The United States had superiority in some military technologies and a huge superiority in nuclear arms. Also, America's economy was much stronger, while the Soviets were just finishing rebuilding from the Second World War.


"rusia has always been a great country, 1 reason so many smart scientists and rish people left russia during the sovit times was because of stalin and lenin, since they were kiling people for nothing. yes some parts of russia is in a bad condition, but last time i checked US's 40% is living in poverty"


Well, I don't know about that being true. Generally, actually, as the Soviet system improved, many more great Russian scientists came to be in the Soviet Union. It is actually today that many of the best minds are going to the United States and other western countries. Their minds are highly valued, and yet Russia does not have comparably have high wages for them. They move to America to make more money (logically).

I don't know what the measurement of poverty was (how low in terms of GDP per capita and comparing to what average GDP), but that does sound awefully high. The living conditions in Russia and America are not even comparable, in my opinion.


"Us has a good militery, mobility but have u checked sites with all the new russian tech, and there is a whole lot that we dont even know about since no country is going to release its secret plans."

Yes, Russia does have some notible technologies, such as the Black Eagle tank, and that new underwater torpedo that moves faster due to its release of air bubbles around it or something (don't know the specifics of it). However, the point is that the Russian government doesn't have the funds to actually build these armaments for use within the Russian military. They are selling them to other countries (in Western Europe, the Middle East, and Korea), but little are ordered for the country itself.

"Russia is on the rise and as far as i am conserned russian militry is one of the superior in numbers and power. ye some parts of it is bad but hey its coming together for an even stronger power."

Well, I don't know if you've been in the Russian army or if you have read about the conditions, but let me tell you, it is not a pretty situation. Rampant corruption among the officer corps, poor living and working conditions (due to lack of money), and crime problems are hurting the military.

The Russian military's adventure in Chechnya shows the sorry state of it.

[iGrOCk]

do i live in russia, no, but i moved to US when i was young. i visit moscow every summer, i grew up there and been there ever since but my parents decided to move to US.

as far as for the army cnditions i heared many things and read a lot 2, there are bad things happening and good


u make some good points too. but come on people debate with us

[Soviet78]

"do i live in russia, no, but i moved to US when i was young. i visit moscow every summer, i grew up there and been there ever since but my parents decided to move to US."


Sorry if it sounded offensive. I was just wondering because your optimism about the redevelopment of the country seemed out of proportion to (at least my perception) of reality. And believe me, your parents definitely made the right choice to move to the US. The last decade has not been very pleasant. At least now the losses have stabalized slightly and slowly moving upwards again.


"as far as for the army cnditions i heared many things and read a lot 2, there are bad things happening and good"

I understand what you meant (I think). In technology, Russia is strong, but in terms of the actual deployed military, there are a lot of problems.


"u make some good points too. but come on people debate with us"

Thanks, but I don't really know much about the army. Only about the conditions required (primarily economic) to have a strong army. So yes, those who know more, come and debate.

[Voyager13b]

Originally posted by iGrOCk
[B yes some parts of russia is in a bad condition, but last time i checked US's 40% is living in poverty

[/b]

That's pretty funny. Nearly half of the US is living in poverty? Wow, even John Kerry doesn't go that far......


Considering the line at the gate, the thought of living in poverty in the US seems to be very appealing to the rest of the world.


Voyager