Yanukovich the Next Russian President?

[big-daddy]

OK, honey.

[Tugay-bey]

Originally posted by princessflower
The declaration of independence should be abolished and Queen will rule all democrats that use the U.S. constituion.The U.S. really belongs to England.

And England really belongs to Roman Empire...Do you have a calendar,honey? If not,take a look out the window and ...
Welcome to the 21-st sentury!

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by Danger-boy
Since Lukashenko's ambitions of running for president of Russia-Belarus union were made known, I was wondering what Yanukovich might be planning to do. He has a chance of separating half of Ukraine away from Kiev. Later on this region could join with Russia in some sort of union. This would result in a Russia-Belarus-(southeast)Ukraine Union. When it officially takes place, Lukashenko and Yanukovich could run against each other in presidential elections to this new union state. I wonder how Russians would perceive that.

Hi Danger-boy, I still do not know what Yanukovich might be planning to do after his defeat in running for Ukrainian presidency. I do not think he could gain credibility by running for Russian top post.
I have such a question to you Danger-Boy or to anyone knowledgeable in Russian history. A new book of Lew Gumilov appeared on bookstore shelves in Warsaw under a title "Ot Rusi k Rossyi" (in Polish transaltion of course). Would you recommend me to buy it? (it's rather expensive).
I turned over a few pages and found his comment on Pereyaslav 1654 loyalty shift in Muscovy's direction. The comment was somewhat funny: The choice based on natural nation's wish turned out to be right. The ink of Gumilov's manuscript must have been still wet when "eternal friendship between Russian and Ukrainian nation" was historically verified by declaration of Ukrainian independence!
Does Gumilov make his arguments on solid historic proofs or rather on his "deep convictions"?
I already have Heller's "Istoriya Rossiyskoy Impyerii" 1997. I found it interesting and not too nationalistic.

Regards
Zbigniew

[mikeaverko]

The treaty of Perislavl was made out of recognition that Ukraine is Russia, with Kiev being the first Russian capital.

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by mikeaverko
The treaty of Perislavl was made out of recognition that Ukraine is Russia, with Kiev being the first Russian capital.

Nothing is eternal in this world Misha.
[particular after-thought in the wake of bear hug between Brezhnev and Gomulka at Warsaw airport, confirmed by words about eternal international Polish-Soviet friendship]

Swiat nam nie odda idac wstecz
zniknionych mar szeregu
Nie zdola ogien ani miecz
powstrzymac mysli w biegu.

[S'wyat nam nye odda idonc vstech
zniknyonykh mar sheregu
Nye zdola ogyen' ani myech
Povstzhymac' mys'li w byegu]

Adam Asnyk around 1875

[mikeaverko]

Not the same Zbig. Poles and Russians felt togetherness way back in 1410. Gomulka and Brzehnev were fellow Commies.

Russia and Ukraine continue to have a very much open border.

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by mikeaverko
Not the same Zbig. Poles and Russians felt togetherness way back in 1410. Gomulka and Brzehnev were fellow Commies.

Russia and Ukraine continue to have a very much open border.

Let us translate it into language of hard facts. Khmyelnitski fell into his own trap and found himself in cage. The Tsar Alexiey proved to be a patient hunter and smelled the wind of history.
It had to be justified to the external world.
Anno Domini 1992 exposed true intentions.