How majority of Russians see the role of Russia today?

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally posted by Alex_Ivanov

Small or not - it's still an invasion. How would you call it, if Russian armed batallion went "for a walk" through Polish border and "stayed for the rest" in some of your villages? You would call it invasion. Now go to hell with your double standarts.

Stop bull****ting- you know well what I mean. The Dagestan "invasion" was just a incursion of less than a thousand men- they could be simply killed as an example and it would be probably largely the end of the whole matter.

Actually it would be better just to close borders,

Of course it would be better! Do you know why it was NOT done so?

I mean walls, pillboxes etc, shoot everybody who comes close to the wall, do not let anybody in or out, shoot down any plane above the place. But in this case, you would be even more angry with our inhuman policy of making concentration camp of the whole region.

Actually blockading the province and leaving only few well-guarded and well-inspected entry points would be the perfect option as far as PEACE is concerned.

The problem whatever we do is turned against us by types like you.

"Whatever WE do"?
There is no "we" unless you are a relative or close friend of the dogs at Kremlin.
Understand this: Putin's actions do NOT serve anyone but Putin and his men, people of both nationalities die in Chechnya because of it.

Think how many casualties could be avoided if Chechnya would be left alone and border secured, just like you wrote previously.


Michael

[Alex_Ivanov]

Originally posted by MichaelB_PL

I see Chechnya exactly like Poland,Lithuania,Finland, etc in the past- ethnically non-Russian land occupied by Russians- what's wrong with that view?


It was half-Russian ethnically before 1991. I know, you have some problems with concept of colonisation, maybe it's some sort of inferiority complex, cause Poland always wanted to expand but it's neighbours were too strong for that.


This is not based upon solid info, might be wrong

Better say "is wrong".


AFAIK generally Russians living in the Kaliningrad and the Lithuania/Latvia/Estonia are more interested in living in countries organised like Poland or L/L/E then in living in a country with state-of-affairs like Russian Federation.

Actually, if all motivation Russians have is to find warm place to sleep, Russia would cease to exist long time ago. Dince it hasn't happened, there's probably something about us you do not know and do not take into account.
That leads you to wrong assumptions.


For example I've read about Latvia Russians who showed a suprising paradox- from one side they said they feel (ethnically) opressed in Latvia...from the other, they said they don't want to move to Russia and they do NOT understand themselves very well with Russians from the RF.


If you don't know, Balamut is Russian living in Latvia. And we understand each other far better than we both understand you, 'civilised' Pole. So you're wrong again.

[Alex_Ivanov]

Originally posted by MichaelB_PL

Stop bull****ting- you know well what I mean. The Dagestan "invasion" was just a incursion of less than a thousand men- they could be simply killed as an example and it would be probably largely the end of the whole matter.

If we just kill invaders, and do nothing about the source of invasion, it will repeat again and again.


Of course it would be better! Do you know why it was NOT done so?

'cause
1. it's impossible to isolate region completely due to mountain landscape.
2. it's inhuman to let all chechen people die in huge, region-sized concentration camp. They aren't all guilty.

[Dan26]

Originally posted by MichaelB_PL

Generally the classifications of other nations are not so much negative, Russians and Ukrainians had the most negative ones, but the Ukrainian one changed to neutral or even positive one lately.

That's a shame you answer this question seriously. Just trying to classify nations of a huge diversely populated conuntry is sign of wrong state of mind. It's nothing about if it's negative or positive - it's about the action itself. Too bad for you...
P.S. could you pls let those russians know what they should do, so that great, higher-civilized, poles change that opinon...

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally posted by Alex_Ivanov

If you don't know, Balamut is Russian living in Latvia. And we understand each other far better than we both understand you, 'civilised' Pole. So you're wrong again.

Sure,and I have a friend here in Poland who is a totally utopian communist- I guess if he'd come to this forum, it would mean that Poland is a communist country.

BTW Maybe Balamut would tell us how he likes living in Latvia compared to RF, and what differences in the living style and every-day culture he finds between Latvia and RF.


Michael

[MichaelB_PL]

Originally posted by Dan26


That's a shame you answer this question seriously.

I understood that the question was asked about the general attitude toward other nations in Poland so I answered. BTW in most countries there are 'classifications'about other nations, don't you think?
Is it something wrong to tell what are the ones in my country?

Just trying to classify nations of a huge diversely populated conuntry is sign of wrong state of mind.

So you deny the existence of national cultures? Interesting.

P.S. could you pls let those russians know what they should do, so that great, higher-civilized, poles change that opinon...

Probably become peace-oriented,democratic and progressive. Generally it's the kind of thing a WISE nation will do for itself not for anybody's opinion.


BTW I do not understand the visible sarcasm when you write "higher-cilivilised" - if you put sarcasm there,then the only thing I can suggest to you is to study both history and present state of Poland and Russia,then the sarcasm will quickly disappear, I assure you.

PS. To make it clear: I do not consider my own nation to be an example of something special or some super-nation or something. I consider my nation to be an average and normal normal nation.
"Higher civilised" means "average/normal vs pathological" in this case.


Michael

[Balamut]

Best way: Annexation of Latvia by Russia. We are waiting Zirinovsky on tank for hell knows how long.

MichaelB, phrase "higher-cilivilised" definitely has sarcasm in it, looking at your posts; you'r the most cynical cynic on this forum,if not to say more.
Why not to move people from Lodz to Warsaw and vice versa? Why wouldn't they like it? It's all Poland anyway.