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Old 20th March 2005, 21:22
MichaelB_PL MichaelB_PL is offline
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Balamut, is that what you are trying to say is that Russian culture does't have a concept of someone being "primitive" or "barbarian"?

Anyway, what are the Russian core cultural/moral values?

I'd like to know what there are (there must be some,no?.



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Old 21st March 2005, 16:58
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It is a very vast topic, it's difficult to reply...
Would you be so kind to point some problems, and I'll try to describe our point of view on them.
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Old 22nd March 2005, 02:23
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It is a very vast topic, it's difficult to reply...
Would you be so kind to point some problems, and I'll try to describe our point of view on them.

Hmmm... I think I'm awaiting too much, cause it's a complicated issue...

On this board I judged Russia negatively and A.Ivanov said I'm judging it from Westerner-only perspective... so although I know it is hard,I'd like to know general Russian perspective.

I mean something like this: During the last 100 years, in Russia millions of people were murdered, Russian and non-Russian alike.

From Polish (Westerner?) perspective, it's enough to brand a country 'barbaric' if something like this happens...

But somehow Russians does't seem to be ashamed of their past, they even seem to be proud of it... despite the fact their ancestors murdered millions of Russians and millions of non-Russians.
I know it looks like a anti-Russian attack, but I'm genuinly confused by this.


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Old 22nd March 2005, 14:01
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I see no reason why we should be ashamed. Of course we are proud of our past, I think any nation is proud of its history. Isn't your people proud of its history?
You accuse us but you forget that during all our history we were attacked or were waiting for an attack. The same in the 20th century. THE ONLY PERIOD we were rather safe was the 2nd half of the 20th century - thanks to nuclear weapons we have.
So the idea of "human rights" doesn't attract many Russians. The idea of patriotism is much more understandable. So a lot of people are discontent with reforms - our country was destroyed, the majority of people is living terribly worse. And what have we got? Human rights? It is a fetish and nothing else.
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Old 22nd March 2005, 16:00
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Question - how the hell your country was destroyed? No one attacked Russia after second world war as long as I know.
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Old 22nd March 2005, 16:10
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Yes, nobody dared to attack us from outside. My country was destroyed by interior enemies who succeeded to become its leaders.
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Old 22nd March 2005, 17:53
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Do i see a monarchist here ?
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