Russia's not a democracy?

[Marita]

If you look to demography graphs of the XX century in Russia you see a great loss of 1941-1945 and appreciable demographic losses in the 2nd and even in the 3rd generations. But so-called "stalinism" gives us no decrease at all!
So, who doesn't want to face facts?

[Michal_PL]

Stalin surely didn't want to decrease number of its soulslaves.conquering that world you need lots of people.besides Stalin ruled for 31 years.you take all the catastrophes during this period-
-Grand terror 1936-38
-Struggle against Kulaks and Collectivization
-Black famine in Ukraine
-millions in work camps-slave working,terrible cold,no food,lack of medication,plagues
-slave working of prisoners during industrialization(dniproges,magnitogorsk,kanal bialomorski)
-deportations during and after the war(Chechens,Crimeans and others)
-fatal military decisions of stalin
-terror after the war

it surely collects those 40 mlns.you add victims of Lenin,mass hunger during the civil war and war communism.it'll be many more.certainly Stalin wasn't responsible directly for each crime but he didn't do anything to stop it.

[Marita]

You are repeating the same tales but you can't explain why population increased pemanently (except wartime) if 40 mln were killed.
Hmm. 40 mln Stalin's victims (as you tell; according to some authors it's 60 mln, 100 mln and even 110 mln) + 20 mln war victims gives us all adult male population of that time.
It's an absurd. But the democrates who give such numbers are too stupid to understand it.

[Michal_PL]

i don't know how to explain what you want me to and i don't know if the facts you provide are true.Stalin was probably the biggest tyrant in history.so if Russians don't want to condemn him for millions of killed Russians that's weird but ok -it's their internal business but they should apologize other nations who suffered from USSR.you Russians can't all the time excuse yourself saying Stalin was Georgian and communists were Jewish and and the same time raise his statues or consider him your national hero.
according to numbers-I read about 40 millions.you may not beleive it,it's hard to measure.it maybe 20 or 30 mlns as well.who cares?fact is Stalin was bloody tyrant whom with hardly anybody can be compared.maybe if Pol Pot ruled such big country would be crueler than stalin.so could hitler if he defeated stalin,genghis khan or tamerlan for example.stalin ruled a big country through 30 years so his achievements should be compared relatively but taking general numbers nobody can be compared to him.

[Marita]

You don't believe what I say is true? Well, it's easy to prove with very simple facts. But so, why should I believe to you? You repeat about millions of victims but you can't see the evidence that even 20 mln (of 170 mln population) cause a great demographic decrease for generations. Where is it? Nowhere!
We have no reason not to be proud of the greatest epoch of our history.

[mikeaverko]

Among other things, this just released article soundly debunks the faulty logic of Soros and the neocons, as well as the myths about the color coded revolutions in Serbia, Georgia and Ukraine.

GLOBALIZATION & ITS RELATION TO 2% MISHA
http://english.intelligent.ru

[Michal_PL]

Originally posted by Marita

We have no reason not to be proud of the greatest epoch of our history. [/b]

it could be greater and more humanistic without commies.having all Russia's economic potential,all those raw materials in Siberia,and all otrher stuff Russia should have conquered the world long time ago.Stalin made a lot of fatal mistakes during his rule.in 1920 bolseheviks could conquer all Europe if Stalin listened to Tuchaczewski.Hitler wouldn't even go to Kiev or Minsk in 1941 if Stalin commanded well.If Stalin didn't stop his tanks in summer 1944 for half a year and instead helped Warsaw AK rising soviet tanks would liberate all Germany and Austria themselves.Having 7 mln dead of starvation in most fertile land in Europe?it could've happened only in great USSR.