Russia's not a democracy?

[akhmet-bek]

[quote]Originally posted by Cherniy_Petka

Originally posted by akhmet-bek



I'm a proud American,too.My ancestors didn't ride the "Mayflower",but I did land not far from the Plimuth Rock 12 years ago...Presisly besouse i didn't want my children and their children to grow up "...in a country where the government owns and profits from everything while people starve and have to put their children in state orphanges..." and,might I add,not to be killed in a far away land ,so the oil barons can have their 1,2 mil.$$ flights on the Marine-1 and hold their hands with a Soudi "prince".....Clear enough for you?

Once again Akhmet, you've opened your mouth i nasral na cebya.
Nice lang.You must be one of them educated and cultured Russians...
It really is pointless to write an essay on how little you know of economics and geopolitics, as it could fill several volumes.
Dude,my dog could eat some alfabet serial and crap an essay better than anything you ever could "write"

What's clear enough for me is that you can't decide whether you're an American patriot or anti-establishment freak (I'll avoid calling you communist/socialist/anarchist, but that's whose position you take on Iraq and Bush).
Wow,you got it all from just one post? And,anyhow,is it really your opinion,that anyone,critisising that Texan dumb-ass is automaticly a commi,etc? Why don't you just come out and call oh,just about 55% of Americans "enemies of the people".Or just go were you're belong with "opinions" like that-to Kremlin,so you can polish your furer's nuts with your tong...
Bush may not be a real conservative,
Then I really don't want to see,what a "real conservative" looks and quaks like...A lot like yourself?
but the replacement dildo named Kerry would have been astronomically worse.
Wow,ones in a long while you're actually right.

[Cherniy_Petka]

IF you look at who's been doing most of the critcizing, you'll see that you're sitting on the left fence, which is fine by me because that is your opinion (but realize with whom you share this opinion). It's not only one post that I infer things from, you've been repeating yourself for two years.

You almost got me motivated enough to explain the geo-politics of Iraq, but I realized that I've answered this call before and it did nothing for you.

You are a Republican I assume, just an anti-war one. That's fine, there are definitely a few of those around. At least you realize a Texan is better than some walking/talking dillweed from Massachusetts or a wanna be Libertarian peacenik like Nader.

[mikeaverko]

Russia is more democratic than Latvia, Estonia, Turkey, Ukraine and Georgia.

[mikeaverko]

CBS News
Putin Defends His 'Democracy'
May 6, 2005

On the eve of a meeting with President Bush in Moscow, Russian President
Vladimir Putin responds to criticism of democracy in Russia, raising
questions about the U.S. 2000 election and President Bush's decision to go
to war in Iraq.

In an exclusive interview to be broadcast on 60 Minutes Sunday,
Correspondent Mike Wallace repeats criticism from the Bush White House
about recent changes Putin has instituted in Russia. Putin tells Wallace he
should question his own country's democratic ways before looking for
problems with Russia's.

The Russian president also says the United States shouldn't try to export
its democracy, as it is trying to do in Iraq.

Mr. Bush has called on Moscow to renounce its forced annexation of Latvia
and the other Baltic regions and has noted that defeating the Nazis did not
lead to freedom for the Baltics. The president says he'll bring it up with
Putin when they meet, which is sure to irritate the Russian leader. Earlier
this week, Putin protested Mr. Bush's decision to visit Latvia on his way
to Moscow.

Mr. Bush and Putin are scheduled to meet over dinner before Monday's
ceremonies in Moscow marking the 60th anniversary of the Allied victory
over Nazi Germany.

Administration aides have been downplaying expectations for this session,
saying the two leaders are meeting for just an hour Sunday night at Putin's
dacha, followed by a social dinner with their wives.

Wallace gets quite a reaction from Putin by asking him about a recent
change the Russian leader made.

Says Wallace, "There was a time when the regional governors were elected,
correct? And all of the sudden, Putin says, 'No, no, no. I shall appoint
the governors.' That's democracy? That's not democracy the way I understand
it."

"The principle of appointing regional leaders is not a sign of a lack of
democracy," Putin retorts. "You're absolutely wrong. For instance, India is
called the largest world democracy. But their governors have always been
appointed by the central government and nobody disputes that India is not a
democracy."

The Russian leader then points to what he believes are drawbacks to
America's own brand of democracy, including the Electoral College system.

"In the United States, you first elect the electors and then they vote for
the presidential candidates. In Russia, the president is elected through
the direct vote of the whole population. That might be even more
democratic," says Putin.

"And you have other problems in your elections," he tells Wallace. "Four
years ago, your presidential election was decided by the court. The
judicial system was brought into it. But we're not going to poke our noses
into your democratic system because that's up to the American people."

Putin also believes the U.S. democratic system does not travel well and
that is precisely why he was against the war in Iraq from the beginning.

"Democracy cannot be exported to some other place," says the Russian
president. "[Democracy] must be a product of internal domestic development
in a society."

Putin says the Iraq war has spawned more terrorists and that the war was
perhaps Mr. Bush's biggest blunder.

But pulling out of Iraq is not an option, says Putin. "But if the U.S. were
to leave and abandon Iraq without establishing the grounds for a united and
sovereign country, that would definitely be a second mistake."

On Monday, heads of state or high-level officials from some 50 countries,
including the France, Germany, Japan and China, are expected to come to
Moscow for the ceremonies, which will include a military parade on Red
Square and a reception in the Kremlin.

What will Putin tell them, Wallace asks.

"We should not forget the things that brought us together, that united us,"
Putin said. "And that we need to unite our efforts again to counter
contemporary threats and challenges. We have to look to the future to fight
for the future of mankind and to fight especially against terrorism."

The full interview airs Sunday, May 8, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.

[Mazepa]

Originally posted by mikeaverko
Russia is more democratic than Latvia, Estonia, Turkey, Ukraine and Georgia.

Combined?

[mikeaverko]

Individually, in any select combos or combined.

[Lembitu]

I must assume that you Mikeaverko don't know what the word democracy means. Maybe you can explain me what do you cal democracy?
But anyway this was nice statement. I havent laughed so much for a long time.