United Slav States

[Marita]

Michal_PL
My question about Smolensk was not a joke. Smolensk was also conquered by Poland in the Middle Ages and belonged to Poland even earlier than modern Kaliningrad region as you write.
By the way, are there many Poles living in Kaliningrad now? Or Germans? I think not more than in any Russian city.

[Michal_PL]

mikeaverko,Russia liberated Serbia and other Balkans not as Slavic liberator but in purpose to weaken Turkey who threatened Russian imperialistic plans tending to conquer Stambul designed by Catherine the Great.

Marita,what does number of Poles has to do with it? there is approximately 500,000 Poles in Russia and almost none Russians in Poland.maybe we should demand some kind of autonomy then?

[mikeaverko]

Yeah right!

Only glorious noble Poles do good for good's sake.

Poland, one of the most jingoistic nations on the planet.

[lewski]

wow I am amased Russia liberated the Balkans and look what is happening now in Serbia and Macedonia...
and naive Poland still goes on and on and on about their enemy, you gusy love each other don't you thats why tensions... but anyhow

calm down, and dont you ruin my topic, I did not ask for that, do not put yourself into the eyes of the other as a bad example, that slavic union can not work, stop recycling the history, and who needs borders when once united... for goodness sake...

hope to hear some optimism that is what we need not where should we position the border/s...

and if you are trying to bring the same issues please do not write here or anywhere else...

[Zbyszek]

Originally posted by Marita
Michal_PL
My question about Smolensk was not a joke. Smolensk was also conquered by Poland in the Middle Ages and belonged to Poland even earlier than modern Kaliningrad region as you write.
By the way, are there many Poles living in Kaliningrad now? Or Germans? I think not more than in any Russian city.

Marita, try harder to select more optimistic historic facts. Knights of Smolensk (legions of Smolensk) supported Poles and Lithuanians in their tremendous military effort against the Teutonic Knights and we will soon, on July 15, have another anniversary of brilliant military Slavic victory over the Teutons (it happened oin 1410 in Grunwald). I think Lewski tried to make us find brighter rather than darker historic moments...

[Marita]

Originally posted by Zbyszek
Marita, try harder to select more optimistic historic facts. Knights of Smolensk (legions of Smolensk) supported Poles and Lithuanians in their tremendous military effort against the Teutonic Knights and we will soon, on July 15, have another anniversary of brilliant military Slavic victory over the Teutons (it happened oin 1410 in Grunwald). I think Lewski tried to make us find brighter rather than darker historic moments... [/b]

That's right. But Michal_PL demands Kaliningrad for Poland, not me. I think a union of Slavs may be real without mutual historical accusations.
Michal_PL
Are there really 500.000 Poles in Russia? I have some doubts about such numbers. If there are, where are their compact habitations? I have never heard about a problem of Polish autonomy but if it exists I think it may be decided.

[Michal_PL]

Originally posted by lewski
wow I am amased Russia liberated the Balkans and look what is happening now in Serbia and Macedonia...
and naive Poland still goes on and on and on about their enemy, you gusy love each other don't you thats why tensions... but anyhow

calm down, and dont you ruin my topic, I did not ask for that, do not put yourself into the eyes of the other as a bad example, that slavic union can not work, stop recycling the history, and who needs borders when once united... for goodness sake...

hope to hear some optimism that is what we need not where should we position the border/s...

and if you are trying to bring the same issues please do not write here or anywhere else...

you need some realstic attitude,Lewski.Slavs united is an utopia which is a simple cover for Russian imperialism kinda Soviet union.
Borders must exist.Otherwise nations will mix up in all areas,some nation feels victimized or underestimated and then some new Bandera or Pavelic reaches power and starts to eliminate others.All multislavic states like USSR,Yugoslavia,Czechoslovakia fell down.