China is going to replace Russia as superpower against USA?

[derebail_33]

see man people of their own countries politics better than outside(foreigner).....
am i right or not.....

you may say that shias sunnis kurds be united because of various reasons....
but how did saddam rule iraq for so many years...... see man kurds may want to seperate from iraq and so are other groups..... so how to unite them if not politly then you need brute force thats what saddam has been doing.....

you know the coalition force are struggling to control iraq they know very well if they leave iraq there will be civil war and the iraq will be broken to pieces...... after one year of occupation the situation in iraq is still bad so many bad things are happening like kidnapping suicide bombingetc... but what are their demands?? inh general the foreigner must leave their country..... this is not a terrorist attact but an uprising.....
i wish saddam would be given a second chance to rule the country..... he knows his country better than anyone else i swear....

you know how ussr colapsed if they have used brute force then they would have still retained their orignal size..ok forget it now even now small region in the southern caucasian regions in russia like chechneya,dagestan,ingushetia etc would have become a republics but because of the presidents brute force they are suppressed and coutry is still in one piece atleast for the time being......

why these things happen.....there are similarities see guys.....
in southern caucas,northern part of iraq(dominated ny kurds) are rich in oil so even if they become republic they have no problem because they have oil...... but see the other side what should the rest of their respective countries should do? their national income would be drastically cut then you know what will happen ......

these group of people are selfish just because their region is good that doesnt mean they should become free..... think for the other people....

[p_panzerschreck]

You agree? Wow.

No, it's not a cover. The Shia chose what they wanted. The Kurds did the same. Sunnis chose to bomb their neighbors. Guess blood is what they really like. Anti-American candidate DO participate, you ignorant baboon. Why do you think the main Shia party has al-Sadr as one of their main backers. Holy sh1t you're an idiot.

Derebail was talking out of his ass, much like you do. Saddam was hated by everyone who wasn't part of the Baathist inner circle. Duh.

Derebial isn't a liar as much as he is misinformed and spreading the lies that he hears. You do the same thing. My facts are just that and I pick on you fools because you don't know a god damn thing about what's happening. Don't be foolish, I'm no naive Republican Booster, I have my own views that would make any Republican cringe. You don't agree with me, that's fine. At least I offer you a counter instead of the countless idiots who nod their heads in sheep like agreement.

Ah you don’t know politics don’t you. America will never allow an anti-American to run the country. Anyone knows that. You are blurred by the “America is a soldier of freedom” crap. What you are saying is merely a desperate attempt to cover everything up. In America Presidents have been murdered because someone didn’t like him, internationally America will do the same, and will defiantly take advantage of the chaotic situation to commit crime.

You totally ignored what I said. I said you can’t prove which are lies or which are your so-called facts. All you said were just opinions. If my opinions were the same as yours, believe me, you won’t be as cranky as you are now. But my opinions are different, and caused you to lose your senses. As you said, if I don’t agree with you its fine. But your actions don’t look like that, which makes you a lair. At least I offered you a counter, not like the others who nod their heads in sheep like agreement.

[p_panzerschreck]

see man people of their own countries politics better than outside(foreigner).....
am i right or not.....

you may say that shias sunnis kurds be united because of various reasons....
but how did saddam rule iraq for so many years...... see man kurds may want to seperate from iraq and so are other groups..... so how to unite them if not politly then you need brute force thats what saddam has been doing.....

you know the coalition force are struggling to control iraq they know very well if they leave iraq there will be civil war and the iraq will be broken to pieces...... after one year of occupation the situation in iraq is still bad so many bad things are happening like kidnapping suicide bombingetc... but what are their demands?? inh general the foreigner must leave their country..... this is not a terrorist attact but an uprising.....
i wish saddam would be given a second chance to rule the country..... he knows his country better than anyone else i swear....

you know how ussr colapsed if they have used brute force then they would have still retained their orignal size..ok forget it now even now small region in the southern caucasian regions in russia like chechneya,dagestan,ingushetia etc would have become a republics but because of the presidents brute force they are suppressed and coutry is still in one piece atleast for the time being......

why these things happen.....there are similarities see guys.....
in southern caucas,northern part of iraq(dominated ny kurds) are rich in oil so even if they become republic they have no problem because they have oil...... but see the other side what should the rest of their respective countries should do? their national income would be drastically cut then you know what will happen ......

these group of people are selfish just because their region is good that doesnt mean they should become free..... think for the other people....

Yes what you said is mostly true, but other countries like America, or even Malaysia, has many different races, but neither is collapsing. Look at the southern provinces in Thailand and the Philippines; they are struggling to be free because they are not living as luxurious as their Northern counterparts. But surely no country wants to lose parts of their land.

[SanskyDiego]

Originally Posted by p_panzerschreck

Ah you don’t know politics don’t you. America will never allow an anti-American to run the country. Anyone knows that. You are blurred by the “America is a soldier of freedom” crap. What you are saying is merely a desperate attempt to cover everything up. In America Presidents have been murdered because someone didn’t like him, internationally America will do the same, and will defiantly take advantage of the chaotic situation to commit crime.

What? Listen, wait until December 16th then we'll see who's right, ok? Let me just tell you, because you seem to be incapable of looking information up yourself, the most powerful groups in Iraq at this moment are the Dawa Islamic Party and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution in Iraq. These two will win the majority of the vote on the 15th and are heavily anti-American.

There is no desperation on my part, only yours. I don't cling to ridiculous hatreds and ill will based on things I hear from the TV, you do (my own hate and ill will arises from my outlook, not propoganda). JFK was killed by a communist. So what? What does that have to do with Iraq voting for an Islamic party that's anti-American? Do you just disagree for the sake of it because you bring absolutely no counters that make ANY sense.

You totally ignored what I said. I said you can’t prove which are lies or which are your so-called facts. All you said were just opinions. If my opinions were the same as yours, believe me, you won’t be as cranky as you are now. But my opinions are different, and caused you to lose your senses. As you said, if I don’t agree with you its fine. But your actions don’t look like that, which makes you a lair. At least I offered you a counter, not like the others who nod their heads in sheep like agreement.

No, they are not opinions. They are realities. Open your eyes and stop nodding your head in agreement with anyone who is anti-American (btw, why do you repeat what I say, it's annoying but flattering). That's just it isn't it, panzer? You agree with anti-Americanism no matter what the form or who the orator. Yet is there a single time when you can honestly say you actually looked into things yourself? The US is definitely guilty of lots of hypocrisy and double-standards, no doubt about it. But I can't fault self-preservation and the responsibility to defend its interests. I mean, isn't that what powers do? The British Empire. The USSR. Japan of old. China of new. Different day, same sh1t.

Listen and listen well: you have the right to disagree but you don't have the right to be uninformed. I'm not a "lair", the "news" sources you think are accurate are the liars. They serve their own masters who have moves in mind for all of their pawns. Do you want to be a pawn?

[SanskyDiego]

Derebial, saying that the Kurds are somehow greedy is completely inane. Kurds have wanted independence for a long time far longer than oil or any other mineral you can place on their property. The US made a huge mistake by not supporting them earlier....

Iraq will live on without Saddam and to wish that madman on any people is a murderous suggestion. I would rather die than have a filthy butcher like Stalin be installed in Russia just in the name of nostalgic Soviet glory. Who ever told you freedom was supposed to be easy?

[derebail_33]

since in iraq there are three main groups......
see suppose you make policies which will benefit one group not another then other group will oppose....

see man many countries have this ethnic problem it is not only in iraq but in many countries..... but the difference is that some are a open and some are closed or not exposed like after kathrina you know why american goverment took long time to send aid to that region why???? because that region is dominated by blacks.....

in iraq there is also sectarian violence..... by that doesnt mean the country should break up....
it all depends on the politicians for their policies that are friendly to all communities......

you know what there is a asying..."guns dont kill people ...people kill people"
it mean that guns cant do anything to anyone........ it is how the people take and repond...... if there is a better understanding and cooporation then this world will be a peaceful one.................

i wish that will be true

[p_panzerschreck]

No, they are not opinions. They are realities. Open your eyes and stop nodding your head in agreement with anyone who is anti-American (btw, why do you repeat what I say, it's annoying but flattering). That's just it isn't it, panzer? You agree with anti-Americanism no matter what the form or who the orator. Yet is there a single time when you can honestly say you actually looked into things yourself? The US is definitely guilty of lots of hypocrisy and double-standards, no doubt about it. But I can't fault self-preservation and the responsibility to defend its interests. I mean, isn't that what powers do? The British Empire. The USSR. Japan of old. China of new. Different day, same sh1t.

Listen and listen well: you have the right to disagree but you don't have the right to be uninformed. I'm not a "lair", the "news" sources you think are accurate are the liars. They serve their own masters who have moves in mind for all of their pawns. Do you want to be a pawn?

And I won’t nod my head in agreement with you without a good reason. I live in Malaysia, I have the Muslim story and the Western story, and I am trying to see the difference. You by the way are supplying me with countless Western theory, thanks.

I am flattered by your invitation to join your anti-Arab club, but Malaysia, as chairman of NAM, wants to be neutral (it’s actually considered a side, I think)

How do you know that your sources are accurate? I asked you many times. And I am really interested in both side of the story, so I can create mine. How do you know that you are a pawn? I listen to your opinions and you listen to mine, that’s all.

I sense you are really growing up, and realize that name calling isn’t bringing you anywhere. I am proud of you son.