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13th December 2005, 19:39
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Originally posted by SanskyDiego
What misdealings are you talking about anyway? Only the US supports Israel. What do the Israelis have to do with you weenies in Europe? It's true only the US unquestioningly gives support to Israel by vetoing UN resolutions however the UK government shares some of the guilt because it has refused to support UN motions condemning Israel although it generally abstained rather than using its veto,and it has in the past provided military hardware to the Israelis. Support of Iran v Iraq? Hahahhahahahahahha... you sodding dipsh1t, Iran was propped up by the Soviets and Iraq by the Americans. Is that the big bad "West" boogeyman too? Another of your cosy,simplistic statements that needs to be shot down in flames I fear. What was Irangate and the contra fiasco all about-it was about supplying weaponry to the Iranians. The Iranian airforce flew US made F-4 Phantoms while the Iraqi airforce flew Russian made MIGs so what was that about the Soviets supporting Iran and the Americans supporting Iraq? At different stages during the conflict the USSR,US and to a lesser extent France and the UK were supplying hardware and intelligence to both sides. Oh, Lebanon...right...... yeah, I'm sure that Lebanon was definitely a rallying call for Islamist pigs except for the fact that this civil war had nothing to do with Western intervention and everything to do with the inability of the ARAB LEAGUE to stop the strife PLUS the Soviets were involved yet again, arming most of the Druz and Shia militias... Let's see, maybe you forgot that most of the policy decisions between 55-85 were made exclusively on the pretext of the theory of Soviet containment. The ME was just another battlefield but what's interesting is that they were as willing and capable of killing as any barbaric African nation was. This coming from the formerly enlightened Arabs...tsk tsk.... You clearly didn't grasp the meaning of my argument about the US peace keeping role in the Lebanon-I guarantee if you actually took the time to look at a source detailing how the US military conducted itself even you would concede that it was a comedy of errors although I should add that political interference from Washington was the root cause and not the competence of US commanders on the ground. Absurdly the US base was sited next to the airport where the local Muslim militia could easily observe it and shell it from the surrounding high ground and the US politicians decided that arming the Christian militias would be the best way of actively dealing with the Islamic Druze militia little realising apparently that their weaponry would be used to slaughter innocent Muslims. Obviously the tragic outcome was that having antagonised the Muslim militias several hundred marines were slaughtered by a suicide bomber. I used that as a specific example of the kind of ham fisted incompetence that has plagued the US in its dealings with the middle east. Even when it has meant well America's policies have often been executed in such an amateurish way that they only provoked hostility from the Muslims. Your examples are as flimsy as ever, liar. Keep posting those lies Andy maybe one day you'll actually believe yourself into unexistence. You haven't changed one bit since 2001 when you first left your slime trail at this place. Even back then you were so worthless as to threaten to beat people up and post your anti-Western crappola. Oh liar, you make me smile. I've changed quite a bit-in those days my views were similar to yours and I was actively hostile to Islam seeing it as a threat to the west but unlike you I'm open minded enough to listen to opposing viewpoints and learn the error of my ways.
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13th December 2005, 20:15
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is this good or bad are they freindly to Russia and the usa
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16th December 2005, 17:43
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Thanks but no thanks, I don’t find insulting amusing. Isn’t it funny, we drifted so far from the main point.
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16th December 2005, 17:47
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The world isn't fair, Why make it fair. By being unfair, The world will be fair. Communism is the alliance between lower-middle class people and workers to overcome the parasitic capitalist exploiter who lives off the fruits of the small people and accumulates a wealth so large without being able to appreciate its value.
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16th December 2005, 20:03
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No, the didn't illegally hold anyone. Those prisoners were intelligence assets and they're very lucky that the US kept them and didn't give them over to friendly intel agencies who actually use real torture instead of psychological games. You're a fool who's too far anti-west for his own good, that's the point. You post unproven nonsense, conspiracy theories and hearsay. You have no proof and you have no point. Simple really. ps. Soros is an dikhead, no doubt about it. But to claim that he caused the meltdown is as moronic as anything you've ever said. He lost 1.3 billion dollars because of the effects the Asian crisis had on the Russian economy (and ergo the default on debt). Even though he's an idiot in my opinion he's not an idiot when it comes to money. Btw, even if he had done it what does he have to do with America? He's a businessman not the country of the USA.
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