China is going to replace Russia as superpower against USA?

[SanskyDiego]

Originally Posted by p_panzerschreck

I don’t know what China would do. But I for sure know that Sansky’s precious America “didn’t” cause suffering to the world, especially during 1997-1998 economy crisis. Isn’t it funny? Osama bin Laden is a criminal but George Soros isn’t.

Soros does not represent America. Your use of the 98 meltdown is so hilarious please continue using it because it'll make it extremely easy for me to sh1t all over your statements and make you look silly. See, that's why I find you entertaining, you're so simple that you don't even realize it. Comparing Soros with bin Laden, yeah, that's an intelligent comment. Boy, you're so far beneath me you'd need a ladder to kiss my foot.

Are you going to cry some more? Oh please do.

[SanskyDiego]

Originally Posted by ANDY-J1

It's true only the US unquestioningly gives support to Israel by vetoing UN resolutions however the UK government shares some of the guilt because it has refused to support UN motions condemning Israel although it generally abstained rather than using its veto,and it has in the past provided military hardware to the Israelis.

Another of your cosy,simplistic statements that needs to be shot down in flames I fear. What was Irangate and the contra fiasco all about-it was about supplying weaponry to the Iranians. The Iranian airforce flew US made F-4 Phantoms while the Iraqi airforce flew Russian made MIGs so what was that about the Soviets supporting Iran and the Americans supporting Iraq? At different stages during the conflict the USSR,US and to a lesser extent France and the UK were supplying hardware and intelligence to both sides.


You clearly didn't grasp the meaning of my argument about the US peace keeping role in the Lebanon-I guarantee if you actually took the time to look at a source detailing how the US military conducted itself even you would concede that it was a comedy of errors although I should add that political interference from Washington was the root cause and not the competence of US commanders on the ground. Absurdly the US base was sited next to the airport where the local Muslim militia could easily observe it and shell it from the surrounding high ground and the US politicians decided that arming the Christian militias would be the best way of actively dealing with the Islamic Druze militia little realising apparently that their weaponry would be used to slaughter innocent Muslims. Obviously the tragic outcome was that having antagonised the Muslim militias several hundred marines were slaughtered by a suicide bomber. I used that as a specific example of the kind of ham fisted incompetence that has plagued the US in its dealings with the middle east. Even when it has meant well America's policies have often been executed in such an amateurish way that they only provoked hostility from the Muslims.


I've changed quite a bit-in those days my views were similar to yours and I was actively hostile to Islam seeing it as a threat to the west but unlike you I'm open minded enough to listen to opposing viewpoints and learn the error of my ways.

Let's see, you lie about Israeli-western links, you lie (or can't respond to) claims that Arabs use this as a smoke screen, you gave up and conceded defeat on the point over what actually caused Islamists to gain their current strength, you lie about Iran and don't understand the Cold War, you lie about Lebanon and change your tune when it suits your goals, you employ some more double-speak, and finally you lie about you ever chaning on here as you're the same faggot that I saw on here late 01 early 02.

I hope I summerized your bullsh1t response well enough. Thanks for playing now get met that 16oz porterhouse, b1tch, and make sure it's a good cut.

[ANDY-J1]

[i]Originally posted by SanskyDiego[/b]

Let's see, you lie about Israeli-western links, you lie (or can't respond to) claims that Arabs use this as a smoke screen, you gave up and conceded defeat on the point over what actually caused Islamists to gain their current strength, you lie about Iran and don't understand the Cold War, you lie about Lebanon and change your tune when it suits your goals, you employ some more double-speak, and finally you lie about you ever chaning on here as you're the same faggot that I saw on here late 01 early 02.

I hope I summerized your bullsh1t response well enough. Thanks for playing now get met that 16oz porterhouse, b1tch, and make sure it's a good cut.



Anyway if you feel able to actually debate the issue in question get back to me-we'll talk about it. It's one thing to call someone a liar in a debate but if you don't actually challenge their viewpoint and point out where they are lying it just exposes the limitations of your debating skills for everyone to see which is of course my intention. And always remember the old adage-"he who resorts to personal abuse is a weak and effeminate brainless woos".

[lucylee]

Stop non-sense debating,
Everybody love his own country and his own culture, but
don't think others from foreigner land all in bad.
Why not become amicable and kindly .
Love your country is good but love the whole world is also great..
Try to understand what is good to you is enough,
because sometimes something good to your country doesnot mean
good to you at all..

I'm a Chinese, but I hate no foreigners , whatever from US, or Japan,
Though in China, those two countries are considered to biggest enemies
here, but I think we should give up the past, and don't always keep
hatrad in our heart, otherwise the war will continue, and human being
will face again disasters..
now human being are in the new world, not in the old days
and people all got much well educated than before, so people should learn
to repect each other, and get well with each other, and no war should be allowed..
after all, we 're human being, not animal, we can solve any problem through
language communication.

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Above is only my own viewpoints,when you criticise , pls only on me, not my country, or my
countryman..THANK YOU..

[p_panzerschreck]

Soros does not represent America. Your use of the 98 meltdown is so hilarious please continue using it because it'll make it extremely easy for me to sh1t all over your statements and make you look silly. See, that's why I find you entertaining, you're so simple that you don't even realize it. Comparing Soros with bin Laden, yeah, that's an intelligent comment. Boy, you're so far beneath me you'd need a ladder to kiss my foot.

Are you going to cry some more? Oh please do.

Ask Osama, did he represent the entire Muslim world? Ask any Muslim down the street; ask them whether they are represented by Osama. Don’t bother telling me the answer, I already know it.

You see, you did it again, you failed to proof me wrong, resulting a desperate attempt to ridicule me with silly comments. Why not attempt to grow up and debate like a man.

You know, it isn’t really easy to try to debate with you, since you always lag behind, or go off the point.

[p_panzerschreck]

No, you unfortunately don't get it. Your education level must be extremely low because you seem incapable of grasping what people tell you. Pity. How should I hold a conversation with you then? I can't talk with imbeciles who post drivel without anything else to offer. See, now you're boring me so I have to keep interest by making you look like the uzkaglaziy pidar that you are.

No, the didn't illegally hold anyone. Those prisoners were intelligence assets and they're very lucky that the US kept them and didn't give them over to friendly intel agencies who actually use real torture instead of psychological games. You're a fool who's too far anti-west for his own good, that's the point. You post unproven nonsense, conspiracy theories and hearsay. You have no proof and you have no point. Simple really.

ps. Soros is an dikhead, no doubt about it. But to claim that he caused the meltdown is as moronic as anything you've ever said. He lost 1.3 billion dollars because of the effects the Asian crisis had on the Russian economy (and ergo the default on debt). Even though he's an idiot in my opinion he's not an idiot when it comes to money. Btw, even if he had done it what does he have to do with America? He's a businessman not the country of the USA.

Those are so stupid, your statements. You are a big hypocrite. I’ll prove it. Yes, George Soros doesn’t represent America, so, did he cause damage? Yes. Was he the only one? No, but it doesn’t matter. He is an American so the American Government should act against him. So what he lost a lot of money? If I rob a bank, but lost my leg, I should be forgiven because I lost my leg? NO, surely not.

So let’s get the facts straight, when the Americans hold prisoners, the prisoners are lucky? What about those prisoners in Iraq? The Americans didn’t torture them? Idiot, your statements collide with each other.

I know in many parts of the world people torture people, even here in Malaysia, A video clip showed some police abusing a prisoner. It’s ok, Sansky, just admit it, America just isn’t the perfect democratic country. Watched “Wag the Dog”? Yup, reality in the world. Every country has faults and you won’t admit it. Wake up.

[SanskyDiego]

I'm not going to get into the meltdown topic with you because you have no idea how capital markets work. Saying "Soros caused the 98 meltdown" is inane, which you at least admitted to. You have no clue what even went on....

As for "America the perfect", dont' put words in my mouth I've never said US foreign policy is perfect. Most of its hypocracy comes from the legacy of the Cold War and the alliances they maintained to counter CCCP. Regardless, I still believe in Iraq and I still believe you're way out of your league.

Your rant about prisoners is pure crap. Thanks for trying but you confused yourself. I say prove it, you reply with more nonsense. Ooookay. Mmmm....yeah....you're definitely uneducated. Hopefully the Malays beat the sh1t out of you one of these days, you illegal bastage.

Osama doesn't rep all Muslims, so what? Here's your point...there it goes....