China is going to replace Russia as superpower against USA?

[p_panzerschreck]

No I didn’t confuse myself, I think I confused you. You see, Osama didn’t pull the 911 stunt all by himself, and Soros didn’t pull the entire Asian economy himself. And not only I say so, many do. Face it Sansky, even Mahathir knew it, if you read. You know clearly in your heart that Soros was somehow responsible but just won’t admit it because he has something to do with America. Anyway, even if Soros didn’t do it himself, he did it. http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/asia-crisis.html Read these. http://www.earstohear.net/soros.html Go to Yahoo Search, type George Soros, and Asian Economic crisis, and you'll find tonnes of stuff.

And putting words in your mouth you say? No I didn’t, base on your opinions and replies, it is so clear that you won’t have anything to do with the bad side of America. Maybe you suffered too much in Russia and found that America is heaven.

Think about it, what on earth does torturing have to do with illegal holding? You can illegally hold a person and serve him with lamb chop and Bordeaux. And if you think further, American troops are torturing prisoners in Iraq, and you think that they won’t torture any where else? You said : Those prisoners were intelligence assets and they're very lucky that the US kept them and didn't give them over to friendly intel agencies who actually use real torture instead of psychological games. But in Iraq, there are no “games”. When the Americans hold someone up, you say the prisoners were lucky, but when some one else hold prisoners, you say that they use torture. Once again, you attempt to distract me from the fact that Americans are illegally holding prisoners in Europe to they were lucky because of this or that.

[Marita]

Lucylee
As I consider you are a Chinese citizen, aren't you? What's your opinion on mass expansion of your compatriots to Russian Far East? Do you find it right or wrong?
Sincerely.

[gs001]

I live in Beijing-capital of China and I never heard of any
conspiracy of occupying Siberia, Where did you hear about that?
Of course in early 1900's, China was very weak, Russia divested
more than 1 million square km of territory from China,
and incited Mongolia's independence.
Your history book didn't tell you that?
Chinese nationalist really angry about that and advocate to
reseize those territory, but Chinese and Russian government
has signed a treaty to slove the boundary dispute.

Yes, some Chinese went to Siberia, but it is their personal decision
not government policy.
rich Chinese go to US, EU or JP to do their business
poor Chinese go to poor area such as Siberia to make a living

[Marita]

I was not speaking about any conspiracy but it is a mass phenomenon and the Chinese government doesn't bother itself with the problem of migration of its citizens. In fact it patronizes mass migration to Siberia.

[Voyager13b]

SRD,

The funny thing about leftists is that they accept everything they hear form various leftist repositories of lame BS to be factual in a religious sense, and proclaim every tidbit of non leftist reality based information to be pure evil, and refuse to even think about it.

So many leftists are immune to personal thought to the degree that they come across as biological iPods playing the communist mantra over and over again, that it hardly seems worth the trouble arguing with them.

Still, it's nice to see you stir the pot from time to time.


Voyager

[Voyager13b]

Originally Posted by Marita

Lucylee
As I consider you are a Chinese citizen, aren't you? What's your opinion on mass expansion of your compatriots to Russian Far East? Do you find it right or wrong?
Sincerely.

Marita,

The US has a problem with foreign nationals crossing it's southern border illegally. I don't see much difference between Siberia and Arizona in that sense. In both cases, a foreign country is exploiting both the geology, and economy of another country in an illegal manner that creates a financial burden on the exploited country, and adds to the economy of the country hosting the illegal migration.

There are many Chinese citizens who are legal residents of the US, and by and large, they are an awesome, well educated addition to the American workforce. That being said, I have no use for illegal border runners who come here to undermine the US economy by taking advantage of tax funded programs devised to help legal residents of the country, and who choose to to export their illegal capital gains back to their home country. That situation causes a net loss to the US. Similarly, illegal Chinese nationals invading south eastern Russia places an economic burden on Ruissia, and should not be tolerated at all.

Every nation has the right to secure it's borders. If Russia and the US continue to ignore illegal border crossing for too long a period of time, they will lose territory in the end, as the language and culture of border areas will soon cease to reflect that of the country that financially supports them.

Most countries have border crossing exemptions for political refugees. All other people who illegally cross a border with the intent of taking advantage of local welfare programs, or siphoning off money to the home country should do so with the understanding that getting caught is a serious crime. The punishment should be far greater than the potential reward. As it stands now, getting caught crossing the US border isn't even a crime. It's a civil offence. That will probably change very soon, and I hope Russia does the same.

Voyager

[gs001]

Marita
you mean any Chinese citizen who declare to immigrant to Siberia
will get money from Chinese government? are you joking?
then, you tell me how much money Chinese government will give
them as subsidy?
Voyager13b
Chinese are quite different from Mexican illegal emigration
Americans have enough money to hire Mexicans working for them.
and pay much more money to Mexicans than in their own country.
I don't think Siberians rich enough to pay Chinese,
on the contrary, most of Siberians live in poverty.
Chinese citizens go to Siberia just for opporunity,
and begin their own business.
As I know the amount of Chinese in Siberia is only about 200
thousands and most of them have visa.
Russian now seems to sensitive about everything, as if everyone in
this world wants to destroy you, US, China, EU, NATO, Islam......
you really need a psychopathist to cure your lunacy.