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Old 7th July 2005, 23:50
ComradeDTAII ComradeDTAII is offline
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Actually the main problem is the influx of Chinese Nationals into Siberian (Russian) space, if this trend continued, then the Chinese government could sen in troops to "protect Chinese citizens".
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Old 8th July 2005, 00:51
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in 1945 Stalin defined territory of Poland in medieval ethnographic borders.it had to be historical justice.maybe Chinese will do the same to you someday-reduce Russia to the ethnographic territory of Grand Moscow Duchy,without Karelia,Caucassus,Siberia and without access to the Baltic and Black sea?
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Old 8th July 2005, 10:46
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Yes, the problem really exists - Chinese citizens who come to the North of Amur river. This territory NEVER belonged to China! There are too many Chinese, but it's their problem, not ours!
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Hmm, it's interesting to know when Siberia was ethnic Chinese or belonged to somebody else!
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Old 8th July 2005, 14:26
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Siberia belonged to different Asian tribes.it wasn't Rusian for sure.
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Old 8th July 2005, 19:25
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Michael's lost in la-la land as usual. Once again, making a ludicrous argument that reminds me of the morons in Mexican-American MECHA who think every western state in the US is still Mexican land. Michael, get a life, a brain, or a combination of the two. Your strawman arugments are laughable in their idiocy.

Siberia will not fall. Russian Empire made a terrible mistake with Alaska but history does seem to repeat...I just hope for once, Russians can learn from their past experiences.
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Old 8th July 2005, 19:44
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Ms. Marita and Mr. Cherniy_Petka



Vladimir Putin has already given away 337 Sq. Kilometers of Russian Siberia to the Chinese, with this actions and the giving of south Urals to Kazakhstan, it seems that Putin is attempting to sell away what is left of Mother Russia.

This area almost cause Soviet-Sino war in 1970's

And he GIVES it away...

Whats next? Kaliningrad or Kuril Islands....
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Old 9th July 2005, 02:45
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Originally posted by Cherniy_Petka
Michael's lost in la-la land as usual. Once again, making a ludicrous argument that reminds me of the morons in Mexican-American MECHA who think every western state in the US is still Mexican land. Michael, get a life, a brain, or a combination of the two. Your strawman arugments are laughable in their idiocy.

Siberia will not fall. Russian Empire made a terrible mistake with Alaska but history does seem to repeat...I just hope for once, Russians can learn from their past experiences.

China's population is 10 times bigger than Russia's.and Russia majority lives in Europe.so there's natural to China to conquer weak Siberia.maybe poor Tatars will play a role of 5th column.
fact is that Russia is still military stronger than China but it's temporary.another fact is that Russia wastes many of its opportunities of raw materials.maybe China will handle better.
you made a mistake with Alaska but don't worry.If Russia didn't sell it,it would be American today ,anyway.
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