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Old 21st November 2005, 11:59
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Exclamation hi mr.panzercek ....

about that Molotov-Ribbentrop teaty i donno much details on that but what i know is that a treaty signed between the uss and nazi was a failure after nazi attacked ussr....

yeah man hitler would be a respected enemy if he was not facsist.....

china.......people all think china is edveloping..... is opening to the world....to be that they have to change certain policies which is opposed in the communist doctorines and if they followed it then their goverment will collapse jut like the soviet's but the chinese are clever..... they retain the communist image at the sme time show that they are opening up.....?????

see man developing does'nt mean there should be skyscapper's etc.. development means that they should get all the basic requirement for any human being like sanitation education etc....

when the china took control of tibet there was no freedom of speech ,religion etc... many buddist temples were destroyed during their (chinese) occupation.....

this is the actual china.....

one more example....
do you know the recent space launch disaster..thats is an chinese rocket carying the american spy satellite the mission was not succesful and the rocket crahed into a nearby village and you can guess what happened to the village...... but the chinese goverment never allowed media coverage...why????? this is a real incident......

even now ask any tibetian they still hate the f****** chinese.....
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Old 21st November 2005, 16:03
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WorldPatriot is right. The U.S. are the only superpower after the fall of the USSR.
The question is - whether the US allow any country become the second superpower? I have a lot of doubts about it.
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Old 21st November 2005, 18:09
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What do you expect, DEREBAIL, the Chinese only started opening up since Deng Xiaoping came to power, that is about only 30 years, and you expect China to be as free as Germany? Of course not. Unlike the Soviets, the Chinese knew the consequences of opening up as fast as Russia.

Everyone knows that developing doesn’t need a skyscraper, and China knew that also. Yes, a lot of Chinese are still living in poverty but that doesn’t mean China is a developed country. China is a growing power, and will replace America. By the way, the Chinese are Communist, what are you expecting, actually? China has been more open than last time and that’s a fact. Even though Tibetans doesn’t have the freedom of speech or religion, the China today is much better than the China 40 years ago. You said it yourself, the Chinese are smart and won’t collapse like the Russians, thus what is happening now in China is the best they could do. World leaders try to press China to grant total freedom to the people, even though knowing in their hearts it was impossible to do within a short period of time. It is clear that other powers are hoping China make mistakes like Russia and don’t kill of the tradition of Western domination for 200 years over the world.
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Old 22nd November 2005, 01:15
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Why you think China must challenge US?
As a Chinese, I don't think US as our enemy
American is our friend,they not only promote freedom and
democracy all over the world but also contribute a lot to
the world(though some action I don't agree).
Russia is a selfish country, they just care about their
own interest, and I feel severe nationalism in this forum.
It is dangerous.
Now US see China as a "stockholder", I think in future,
when China transform to democratic society, China and US
will become friend or even ally.
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Old 22nd November 2005, 10:57
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Any country cares about its own interests first. That's normal. Don't think any country (e.g. the U.S. and particularly the U.S.) will care about another country's prosperity. It's naive to think so.
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Old 22nd November 2005, 12:57
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every country has its own interest,
but a responsible country will not only concentrate
on their own interest.
for example, South Asia tsunami last year, every country
donate a lot to help those victim, Russia didn't donate
even a penny, but the donation from US rank the first.
and US army take the largest action after WWII to rescue
residents there.
US spend a lot of money to help poor country every year,
and these years US spend 15 billion to help Africa resist HIV.
and the individual donation from US citizen even larger than
government donation.
I don't think a country like that as our enemy.
of course, US often criticize China of its human right,
freedom, democracy status, but in these sector, China do have
some disadvantages.
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Old 23rd November 2005, 12:54
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Do you really consider this help sincere and disinterested?
And what can you say about American "help" to Iraq, for example?
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