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Old 24th August 2005, 08:10
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Should East Germany be returned to Russia?

I think they won it fair and square.
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Old 24th August 2005, 15:52
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HAAHAAAHAAAAA

i think, that russian interference was unnecesary 1945. Others would have won the thing anyways.

East Germany(EG) wasn't owned by Russia. Russia only made the place communist or something like that. West Germany(WG) was controlled by Western world and east was controlled by Russia.

While WG was developing fiercly and nowadays is one of the strongest nations in world. But EG, that was controlled by Russia was total anecdote. As everything, that has to do with russia, so was EG not developing, but stagnating. People lived in misery over there! Even nowadays WG's salaries are higher, than EG's. How come? Russia. You are root to whole evil in world. Look at Baltics. Let's take Estonia. As I live here, I know the best, what's going on. 1930 Estonia was fiercly developing small country, more developed, than Finland or Spain back then. At the same level, than Denmark was. Then came in forties saviours russians, saved us from indenpendence, arrested and sent to siberia tens thousands of people for no reason. And "returned" Estonia to itself. And 50 years were robbed from us, from Latvia, Lithuania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbajan, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan. (maybe some are missing, not sure)


Return to Russia? Hah! The areas, Russia controls at the moment should be taken away! Siberia, Chechnya, and especially, Mari EL. Only "historic" Moscow, with some area around it should be left to Russia. Maybe.
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Old 24th August 2005, 17:12
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You're baiting here, no?
Next will be, "well then return Russia to Mongolia..."
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Old 24th August 2005, 22:49
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i think, that russian interference was unnecesary 1945. Others would have won the thing anyways.

East Germany(EG) wasn't owned by Russia. Russia only made the place communist or something like that. West Germany(WG) was controlled by Western world and east was controlled by Russia.

While WG was developing fiercly and nowadays is one of the strongest nations in world. But EG, that was controlled by Russia was total anecdote. As everything, that has to do with russia, so was EG not developing, but stagnating. People lived in misery over there! Even nowadays WG's salaries are higher, than EG's. How come? Russia. You are root to whole evil in world. Look at Baltics. Let's take Estonia. As I live here, I know the best, what's going on. 1930 Estonia was fiercly developing small country, more developed, than Finland or Spain back then. At the same level, than Denmark was. Then came in forties saviours russians, saved us from indenpendence, arrested and sent to siberia tens thousands of people for no reason. And "returned" Estonia to itself. And 50 years were robbed from us, from Latvia, Lithuania, Moldavia, Ukraine, Tajikistan, Turkmenistan, Georgia, Uzbekistan, Armenia, Azerbajan, Kazakhstan, Belarus, Kyrgyzstan. (maybe some are missing, not sure)


Return to Russia? Hah! The areas, Russia controls at the moment should be taken away! Siberia, Chechnya, and especially, Mari EL. Only "historic" Moscow, with some area around it should be left to Russia. Maybe.

I knew someone would bring up the economic differences between the east and west. But so what? They can run their country howeve they want.

Of all the countries that you listed there, East Germany was the most legitimate possession of Russia. No one could argue Soviet occupation of East Germany. The same with some Japanese islands. So where is your argument? Because you don't like their form of government or because you are resentful because your own country was dominated is not an argument for East Germany.
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Old 26th August 2005, 22:24
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Why are you wanting to stagnate area of the World?

Why are you, russians such imperialists? Bigger the better? After Sweden gave up imperialist politics in 18. century(if i'm not wrong) then everybody's life in Sweden went better! No governing over some distant areas was needen no more. Don't you think same would apply to Russia?

Wouldn't you like to live better life(assuming you're russian)? I don't get it. You fear, that if you give to one(Chechnya) then others will want too. Why not. It's possible to maintain needed military or economic agreements or something like that(Baikonur).

I just don't get it! I beleive, that borders should be ethnic, not some aftercome of 19.th century colonization race!
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Old 27th August 2005, 03:01
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Sorent,don't you know Russia won't ever be a wealthy country?we slavs as well as Latin and some south europeans are genetically too lazy for work and don't have that economic sense of protestants or Asians.slavic countries were always poor except of Czechs who are protestant.Russians are the poorest so they recompense it with military hegemony and nukes
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Old 28th August 2005, 01:18
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lol, that's just an excuse!


but what do you, russians think, is it necessary to have your countr extend over thousands and thousands of kilometers?

btw, russia IS asian country. it's like, 70% of russia is in asia. although, yea, the important part's in europe. i think, that russia should take a step towards becoming full-time european country.
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