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Old 26th October 2001, 06:34
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... to create ideal communism, to make life fair, to make sure everyone's happy? When they just call you a dumb @ss commie?!?!?!

Ungrateful *******s!

Fine, you want it? Introduction to economics course states that the two factors behind free market economics are greed and fear. That's what drives our markets greed and fear. And you know who is the superior in our society - one that realizes that, one that is most greedy. That is the damn thing - right wing philosophy, the superior (rich) are the ones to live a better life and procreate, hence we are training GREED within our society.

But F it all, we are all gonna die in a nuclear war sooner or later anyway, so let's just make the best of it while we are here.

My heart honestly goes out to all those who are trying to make a good life in a better world for their children.
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Old 26th October 2001, 06:44
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aww, c'mon, nycro.

Socialism may be down now, but all things ebb and flow - even capitalism.
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Old 28th October 2001, 17:28
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Old 9th December 2001, 22:55
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ANNIHILATE CAPITALISM, RESURRECT SOCIALISM

Yo! nycrolite - right wing is only for those with money and luck. What about the rest? They just throw it aside. Left wing is much better. Everyone there is equal. Right wing contains Nazism, Fascism, Feudalism, Capitalism, Aristocracy,... What rights do the rich people have to exploit or destroy nature and working people? Most people think that being rich is something like God's gift. Greed is the main factor in Democracy and I, a communist do not tolerate it.
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Old 10th December 2001, 00:45
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Re: ANNIHILATE CAPITALISM, RESURRECT SOCIALISM

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Yo! nycrolite - right wing is only for those with money and luck. What about the rest? They just throw it aside. Left wing is much better. Everyone there is equal. Right wing contains Nazism, Fascism, Feudalism, Capitalism, Aristocracy,... What rights do the rich people have to exploit or destroy nature and working people? Most people think that being rich is something like God's gift. Greed is the main factor in Democracy and I, a communist do not tolerate it.
Marxman,

What are you going to do about greed? Greed is the basic caracter of the people.
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Old 11th December 2001, 03:01
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Vorosilov, greed is not a basic character of people, it's trained from the early age to be greedy and have more than others in very basic deep-down things. For example if I had the power to have anything that you, or anyone else does, at any given time, I would probably not turn up greedy unless I was a saddist of some kind. So that disproves the fact that humans are greedy, society with its limited resouces, or perhaps political views make them like that.

Marxman, I meant, take it the full right wing, so if someone's rich it ain't gonna be long till some commies with baseball bats jump him and distribute the wealth equally amongst the unfortunate. So let the strongest and smartest survive the anarchy.

Secondly, what "right" someone has or hasn't is determined by the constitution, or YOUR morales. Morales are different for everyone, so you can not use them either as arguments in a logical discussion, or as evidence supporting yout logical conclusions. Hence - the whole commie idea would be a nice one, but you people don't really have a point to make.

Thirdly - democracy and capitalism are different things, for example you could have a birght communist-democratic country, with no element of "EVIL" capitalism, which you so vividly described.

The problem with communism is that it does not have an eniciative to progress, as it will minimize the competition within our species, and cause us to be fat, stupid, and so forth and so on. Now of course that kind of evolution is not necessarily a bad thing, but I would suggest working away from that, as at this point in time to me it seems like a step backwards.
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Old 11th December 2001, 21:57
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HUMANKIND'S BEST WAY IS COMMUNISM

Yo! Communism doesn't make us fat and stagnated. We would all work, be disciplinary, be prosperous and so forth. Lazy fat asses are in capitalism. Communism achieves the man to work with his hands and not by a machine (Communist manifest by Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels explains the advantages of hand work). Capitalism only tries to gain more and more product and that looses quality but capitalists don't care. And not to mention the stupid competition, noone is going to convince me that compeition between humans is healthy. Are we some bunch of animals? Capitalism is reversing the human psyche and the mental evolution, communism is an advancement into human psyche and mental evolution. Communism tries to cure the greatest man's dissease - GREED! And it can be healed by raising a certain individual in a commune way of life. Capitalists, on the
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