ILay - question

[nycrolite]

ILay, in the other thread that you said were gonna delete you provided info on the red flag. You said it was maintained as the official flag of the russian military, but is it just the star and the "red cloth" or does the hammer and sickle (very important) stay on as well?

Just curious, I actually didn't know aobut the flag. Thanks.

[nycrolite]

Hey! What the! I posted the subject to be "Ilay - question", it seemed to cut if off and not change.

Formatting Bug?

[mastodon]

Is that what you wanted, nycro?

[ILay]

Hello Nycro!

to answer in short: just red flag, without a star, hammer and sickle.

Like this:


in more detail:

During the USSR period, the sign of the Soviet army was the red star with the hammer and sickle.

After the collapse of the SU, Russian Army had no official flag until 4th of January 2001, then the new Red Flag was officially taken.

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Some 5 years before it (15 April 96), official 'Victory Symbol' was sanctioned. Like this:



(the colour of the star is not defined)

It should be used during official celebrations relevant to the victory in the 'Great Patriotic War' jointly with the state flag.

It has the same proportions as the flag, which was standed on the Reichstag on 30th of April 1945 (red assault flag, with hand-drawn hammer, sickle, star and the name of the military body). Here it is:



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less known is the fact, that usage of red flags (and red colour, in general) has quite a long tradition in Russian army.

Examples:






flag of the Kiev regiment, Novotroizk fusil regiment, Smolensk infantry regiment and Voronezh fusil regiment, respectively (beginning of the 18th century)

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so far about it.
But why do you think it's very important?

[ILay]

Dear Ron!

I'm not a porcelain statue, I'm not that easy to insult

One more thing to add, anyway.
You know well I'm not a communist.

But for us - ordinary people living in Russia, the flag was the symbol of our pride and the symbol of our country.
Just like the stars-and-stripes for an American.

And now, even though there is no USSR anymore, it's still the part of our history, just like the anthem, or Mir space station, or hockey team. I just usually try not to see things in balck and white only. Hope you understand me.

[ILay]

Hello Ron!

You know, in the past we already once declared ourselves totally new people, without any link to the past.

Revolution, civil war, repressions etc.

Russia can not afford to do so once again.
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I would like to explain it using more than just a couple of words.

My grandfather was a communist. The only privilege he had was to go to the battle before the others. He survived by chance but never could recover after the contusion.

My father was a communist (until the Communist party of Soviet Union disappeared).


We can not go and just destroy the memory about the past. We can not afford a new civil war. We need a kind of a link between the pre-revolution Russia, SU and present days.

In some 50 years everything will be less complicated


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Dix:

Thanks!
I'm sure most of the people in Russia will hardly recon the flag of Texas from the flag of the Confederation