Roots of bureaucracy!

[titoman]

Hello my people, I haven´t seen you for a while.

I have just finished reading the second chapter of book "From revolution to counter-revolution". Its name is "The rise of Stalinism".

I you know what I found out? That the biggest democracy ever achieved was during Lenins´rule. All Bolscheviks were available to all people that wanted to talk with them, they walked freely, without any bodyguards, on every streets and they were safe. Communists had the lowest salaries, and Lenin kept between the highest and the lowest salary ratio of 1:4, the lowest ration was 1:1.7. But SR´s sent assassin to kill Lenin, he failed. After their attempt his health was in very bad condition. And when he was in hospital the bureaucracy was getting stronger, but Lenin didn´t know about it, although Trotsky warned him several times, but he realized that when numbers in bureaucracy raised from 100,000 to an astonishing 5,880,000. In the matter of fact, there was nothing wrong with that, but we will see where is the catch latter. Then Stalin gained to better place and he had very big number of minions which thought that they are using Stalin to make a counter-revolution, so they would make state capitalistic again, but in the matter of fact Stalin used them to take power. Then Lenin and Trotsky created some kind of allience and also created left party which fought for marxistic ideals of society, but on the other hand Stalin and his partners created right party, which tried to gain back to capitalism. And the momment was very delicated, because Lenin trusted only to Trotsky, but Stalin had millions of bureaucratic allies, because they thought that he is fighting to chrush socialism and put country back in "right" place (capitalism). Lenin condemned Stalin for cheats and lies for which he found out, but in the matter of fact, this was just a letter which was send to 3 leaders of the party one day before his death. These leaders were all old, tsarist, bureaucratic men which wanted to regain power and recreate capitalism and because of that they betrayed Lenin and they could do that only if they were in the party. The biggest question is what would Trutsky do if he saw the letter, but that are just speculations. Another speculation is "Why didn´t Trotsky take power with his Red Army soldiers?" The answer that some historians wanted to give, is that Trotsky was afraid and that he was a man that was scared of fight, although we know that this is not true because he led Red Army himself, when foreign armies wanted to kill revolution.
The time was on Stalins side, because he tricked all his party members. They all thought that he wanted to recreate capitalism , but in the matter of fact he was very sad when he heard the news from Germany, China, France, England, that revolutions were killed. In the matter of fact, Stalin was the only man that was dreaming of COMMUNISM IN ONE COUNTRY, neone even dared to think that. Lenin always said :" We are doomed if the world revolution won´t come!".
The first time Stalin officially said that Soviet union can have socialism without help of any other countries was in the year 1924. Then Stalin began his rule.



Facts which writter points out:

During Lenins regime, all Bolscheviks members walked through city without any guards, and they talked to anyone that wanted to talk with them, they were available to anyone.

We know that Stalin was heavily guarded, but we also know that SR wanted to kill Lenin, so the finnest line can´t be determined.

During Lenins rule, all communists had the lowest salaries and all offices were equiped with one wooden table and three chairs.... (very modest).

During Stalins rule, communists had biggest salaries and best equiped offices.

While Lenin was in charge, the best rations were in prisons, so some people went to prison to have their lunch or dinner.

While Stalin didn´t give so good rations to his "guests".

Lenin was more marxistly directed than Stalin!

Lenin wanted that all farmers and soldiers would have the right to judge his rule.

Stalin was stricly against that.






Some historians say that if Lenin lived for some more time, all historical events would change....







I am sorry for any sintax errors because I wrote quickly!

[titoman]

Addition is comming soon.

[jutka]

That's interesting! I've also been reading about the revolution in my history class.

[titoman]

This book can be found on this side, it is very interesting:

http://easyweb.easynet.co.uk/~socappeal/russia/

[davlet]

Hello my people,

Hmmm... don't we have a mania of superiority?

I haven´t seen you for a while.

I think you mean for ever

Communists had the lowest salaries, and Lenin kept between the highest and the lowest salary ratio of 1:4, the lowest ration was 1:1.7.

Aha. Nicholas II had no salary. What does salaray mean when you have direct access to all resources of a huge country?

But SR´s sent assassin to kill Lenin,

Too bad they failed. On the second though that probably wouldn't have changed much. They should have done it 20 years earlier.

[snip]

D.P.

[titoman]

Davlet, I have met a houndred people, people who spit on communism, but they don´t even know what it is all about, and what happened, they don´t know history and they don´t know what they are living for.

Davlet money does not make you happier. Sometimes you should take out the garbage for your mother. Or go in store for goods.

[davlet]

Originally posted by titoman
Davlet, I have met a houndred people, people who spit on communism, but they don´t even know what it is all about, and what happened, they don´t know history and they don´t know what they are living for.

We have all the reasons to "spit on communism", don't we? As attractive a theory as it sounds, it does not work in practice. How can you say that I don't know history, when historically communism ended in a disaster in every single country where it was established?

Davlet money does not make you happier.

It does, to some extent, unless you are a saint (sad but true!).

Sometimes you should take out the garbage for your mother. Or go in store for goods.

OK, but that doesn't change the fact that Communism does not work

D.P.