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Old 16th November 2002, 02:16
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While we are brainstorming our way to infinity

I got another play like it.>==>There are electromagnetic waves around the earth.As a matter of fact my notes here arrived to your PC on those waves.If you have ever built your own motorized battery charger useing a 12 VDC altenator from an automobile,,You would have learned that it takes near 8 HP to get the amps you need.WHY? Electromagnetic resistance.This is much like an air pump except it pumps electromagnetical waves from Earth fields.The resistance indicates capability because of the 8 HP input to pump the amps. 30 (FYI) This can be applied to elevateing a craft in those fields if principles are properly applied.The craft would climb up and move by electromagntics.In order to get maximum effeciency one would need to get the effect with little weight in the device.I am thinking if you get an altenator to fly then you could go next to radiation effects in some fashion as the HAM radio antenna and transmitter couples with EMW. OK boys..I put up that ballon..Go ahead and shoot it down. Oh yes,,As there is less atmosphere in space to resist movement,,The antenna driven one would be highly effecient and work on the principal of ..For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.Radio waves travel in space well.
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Old 17th November 2002, 19:14
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READ THIS SPACE NEWS

China says they are going to the Moon.Other interesting new on space by BBC. http://www.inconstantmoon.com/cyc_news.htm
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Old 4th December 2002, 23:44
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Forgive the late reply, comrade kumukh77!

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Comrade T

i would give unconditional support to scraping the idea that the resources are limited .


Perhaps , opposite has always been the truth , the demand is limited.

markets get saturated energy markets get de-regulated , de-governmentised if u will .And to whose benefit?

If deriving energy from light becomes driving reality for emerging economies around the world in next 2 decades and let's say , nano technology and photon drive becomes reality too.
Let us devoutly hope!

contunie to dream , shall I , indulge me if you pls

cloning and genetic enginering gives way to every individual creating self copies of themselves in a task designed structure , being extremely carefull in not making the mistakes that led to blade runner for hire.

question ?

if u have created 5 copies of yourself with no human rights attached to it and then if u have made these self copies do all the unpleasant jobs and other stuff the real self does not wanted to do ...... is this a cruelty of humanity ?Your comrade is opposed to cloning human beings on ethical grounds. Making babies the old-fashioned way is fun and easy!

warp drives and etheric nature of the invincible universe somewhat related in a fractional way.

have i ever thanked you for being such a good sport lately tovarisch comrade ?

here , i thank you .Your thanks are reciprocated, comrade!

caucasian warrior
cyberdeeringly yours .

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Old 4th December 2002, 23:58
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Re: While we are brainstorming our way to infinity

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I got another play like it.>==>There are electromagnetic waves around the earth.As a matter of fact my notes here arrived to your PC on those waves.If you have ever built your own motorized battery charger useing a 12 VDC altenator from an automobile,,You would have learned that it takes near 8 HP to get the amps you need.WHY? Electromagnetic resistance.This is much like an air pump except it pumps electromagnetical waves from Earth fields.The resistance indicates capability because of the 8 HP input to pump the amps. 30 (FYI) This can be applied to elevateing a craft in those fields if principles are properly applied.The craft would climb up and move by electromagntics.In order to get maximum effeciency one would need to get the effect with little weight in the device.I am thinking if you get an altenator to fly then you could go next to radiation effects in some fashion as the HAM radio antenna and transmitter couples with EMW. OK boys..I put up that ballon..Go ahead and shoot it down. Oh yes,,As there is less atmosphere in space to resist movement,,The antenna driven one would be highly effecient and work on the principal of ..For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.Radio waves travel in space well.
As I imagine it, a length of cable rotating around a fixed center at geosynchronous orbit, powered like a giant electric motor by interaction with the Earth's magnetic field and driven by solar or nuclear energy. The endpoints of the cable pick up payloads from a series of Space Fountain structures and boost them to destinations in the outer solar system, all with minimal propellant expenditure. Spiffy! Also visualized by Artsutanov, of course.PEACE,T.
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Old 9th December 2002, 17:36
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water on Mars

Hello, I noticed you all were talking about Mars earlier in the thread, and thought you might find this interesting:

http://www.wtop.com/index.php?sid=26967&nid=220

Have a great one! -Blueliner
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Old 8th January 2003, 07:35
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Welcome comrade Blueliner!

And thank you for the contribution. Other ways to get to Mars without rockets are via electromagnetic cannon and the "cyclers" proposed by American astronaut and engineer Buzz Aldrin in Air and Space magazine, Oct./Nov., 1990, pp 40-47. The cyclers take about 26 months to cycle between Earth and Mars and should accordingly be very comfortable, if not luxurious, and safe. Modern ocean liners are not so much used solely for transportation, perhaps the space liners of tomorrow will return us to a more genteel age of travel. With enough of them in different orbits one departure every month could be assured. The humble tovarisch proposes that the universities of tomorrow should be located upon such craft and that youth willing to perform their national service obligations be dispatched to terraform Mars, learning what they need to know and becoming acclimatized to the Martian gravity on the outbound leg, serving a few years on the Red Planet, and reversing the process on the way back to Earth, if they choose to return.

The cannon idea is probably more suited to freight. Imagine an enormous linear induction or linear synchronous motor located in a convenient near Earth location, while its twin awaits in the region of Mars. Firing a cargo capsule with a burst of electrical energy, the cannon can also recieve and DECELERATE incoming cargo capsules fired by its twin, storing the kinetic energy for the next shot.

Anyway Mars is like an "instant planet" kit, very easy to terraform, just a couple centuries and a whole new world for humanity, with plenty of room for everybody.LET'SDOIT!T.
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