TERRAFORMING

Originally posted by tovarisch

Eyeradi8, who has taken it upon himself to be my childish "nemesis" is not what I would describe as "complicated"- "malicious", "evasive", "illogical", "inconsistent", and "untruthful" would describe him much better.

It is his choice to behave in this manner of course.

LOVE,T.

I forgot to mention "abusive" and "unpleasant". Again with my wife, eh, you sick *******? Sorry to disappoint you, but at this time I choose not to respond in kind regarding your no doubt industrious and beautiful wife and charming daughter. And so's your mother, I imagine. How is it that she did not raise you better? Since you do not like to answer a lot of questions, except with f-cked-up and juvenile insults, I shall content my humble self with but two more, you pathetic sack of lying shyit:

1.)What am I doing on this thread which qualifies as "mental masturbation"?

2.)Speaking of sacks and lies, how is the grocery business treating you these days?

HAPPINESS,T.

http://miningasteroids.com/

From the f-cking BBC:

Thursday, July 22, 1999 Published at 17:54 GMT 18:54 UK


Sci/Tech

Gold rush in space?


By BBC News Online Science Editor Dr David Whitehouse
The most detailed study of an asteroid shows that it contains precious metals worth at least $20,000bn.

The data were collected last December by the Near Earth Asteroid Rendezvous (Near) spacecraft which passed close to the asteroid Eros.

It provided an unprecedented look at one of the mountains of rock that fly around the solar system.

The first conclusions from that encounter are now published the journal Science.

Near, which due to a computer malfunction will not be able to go into orbit around Eros until next year, revealed that the asteriod is shaped like a 33 km by 13 km by 13 km banana.

Over a thousand images of Eros were transmitted back to Earth that allowed scientists to estimate its size and mass. The results are startling.

Gold mine in space

Eros is believed to have been formed from the wreckage of a collision with a larger body. Its composition appears to be similar to the stony meteorites that frequently fall to Earth.


That means Eros is a goldmine in space, as well as a platinum mine, a zinc mine and many more minerals besides.

If Eros is typical of stony meteorites, then it contains about 3% metal. With the known abundance's of metals in meteorites, even a very cautious estimate suggests 20,000 million tonnes of aluminium along with similar amounts of gold, platinum and other rarer metals.



Controllers briefly lost contact with the Near craft
In the 2,900 cubic kms of Eros, there is more aluminium, gold, silver, zinc and other base and precious metals than have ever been excavated in history or indeed, could ever be excavated from the upper layers of the Earth's crust.

That is just in one asteroid and not a very large one at that. There are thousands of asteroids out there.

Astronomic value


How much is Eros worth? Today's trading price for gold is about $250 per ounce or about $9m per tonne.

It means the value of the gold in asteroid Eros is about $1,000bn. That is just the gold. Platinum is even more expensive, $350 per oz. Work it out yourself.

Since it contains a lot of rare elements and metals that are of use in the semiconductor industry for example, at today's prices Eros is worth more than $20,000bn.

Market busting

But there are two problems with this analysis.


Firstly, such a dramatic influx of metals to Earth could crash the global market for such commodities. Secondly, the resources are way out in space.

But in the week we celebrate the 30th anniversary of the first footprint on the Moon can we not contemplate mining what is just another big chunk of rock in space?

One way to get the metals back would be to mine them on Eros and send the refined iron back to Earth.

Solar powered

It takes about 2,000 calories to boil a gram of iron so the equivalent of between 20 to 200 thousand megatons of TNT would be needed to start liberating substantial quantities of iron from the asteroid.

But this energy could be obtained from the Sun.

If you wanted to mine only a section of Eros at a time then a huge solar energy collector - a sheet only a few kilometres in size - could collect enough energy from sunlight to power a smelting plant on the surface of Eros.

These are all "guesstimate" figures. But they serve to demonstrate just how plentiful are the resources of the Solar System, in terms of minerals, metals and energy, once we decide to go out and get them.

It shows how mining one fairly small asteroid like Eros would revolutionise the availability of many raw materials on Earth.

No one knows how much a robot mission to mine an asteroid would cost but I am willing to bet it would be the best return on an investment since Leonardo da Vinci bought a sketch pad or Paul McCartney a guitar.



All pretty good until the Beatle(ugh) reference.T.

as the mighty dollar circles the drain. But don't get me STARTED on this f-cking ECONOMY!

From Volume 2, Issue Number 29 of Electronic Intelligence Weekly, Published July 22, 2003
U.S. Economic/Financial News


Boeing To Slash 4-5,000 More Jobs in Seattle
Boeing, the world's largest aircraft maker, announced July 17 that it will cut 4-5,000 more jobs at its Seattle-based commercial jet unit by the end of 2003, due to the carnage in the airlines sector, on top of the 35,000 job cuts in the unit since Sept. 11, 2001. The new, "extremely painful" job cuts reflect an "unprecedented and very difficult time" in the commercial aviation industry, said Alan Mulally (the jetliner unit's president and CEO), as air travel has plummeted and airlines have cancelled or deferred hundreds of plane orders.

Since September 2001, Boeing has already slashed its highly skilled, technological workforce to 159,800 from 199,000, a drop of 20%. Employment in the jetliner unit has plunged by 37%, from 93,000 to its current level of 58,900. The next round of 60-day layoff notices (previously announced) will be issued July 18 to 660 employees.

Dying Manufacturing Industry Challenges Bush Administration To Intervene To Save It
As U.S. machine-tool consumption reached "one of its lowest points in history," the Bush Administration must "seize the responsibility to recognize manufacturing's importance to our economy," urged Albert W. Moore, president of the Association of Manufacturing Technology (AMT), on July 14. U.S. industry consumed $140.78 million worth of machine tools in May; although down only 0.8% from April, it was a whopping 36.4% drop from the level in May 2002. During January-May, U.S. machine-tool consumption has plunged by 24.4% compared to the same period in 2002, according to a joint report by AMT and the American Machine Tool Distributors' Association. Moreover, machine-tool use had already fallen by 2002 to only 37% of the level in 1997. "America's investment in modern manufacturing equipment is at one of its lowest points in history," Moore warned.

Moore noted that the U.S. Department of Agriculture was created to recognize agriculture's economic importance, and that Reagan formed SEMATECH to help the semiconductor field; he called on the Bush Administration to make it a policy to save the "vital" manufacturing sector. "Now it's time for this Administration to seize the opportunity—as well as the responsibility—to recognize manufacturing's importance to our economy," he insisted. "This vital sector needs a permanent place in our nation's policy structure."

AMT chairman Lawrence Rhoades had urged the Administration, in House testimony on June 5, to undertake a Federally funded "national offensive" to rebuild America's machine-tool capability. In addition, the National Association of Manufacturers on June 10 had warned that the U.S. manufacturing collapse was reaching a point of no return.

'Ivory Tower' Economists Declare 'Recession' Ended in November 2001
The National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER) had its own "yellow cake" story this week, which, in the realm of economics, represents an equally huge disconnect with reality, as the now infamous "16 words" in the President's State of the Union message: The Business Cycle Dating Committee of the NBER—a private group of university economists—claimed that business activity hit a "trough" in November 2001, marking both the end of the "recession" that it said began in March 2001, and the beginning of a (mythical) economic "expansion." Denying that an economy is measured in physical terms, the panel said it based its decision mostly on the Commerce Department's estimate of U.S. Gross Domestic Product, the growth of which resulted entirely from productivity gains that EIR has repeatedly exposed as a hoax. Nevertheless, NBER was forced to admit, "employment has not begun to recover at all."

California Congressman Pete Stark, the ranking Democrat on the Joint Economic Committee, blasted the announcement. "We've declared victory over the recession, and we're still laying off a couple hundred thousand workers a month," he noted. "If it weren't so painful for so many people who are out of work, it would be hilarious," he added.

Greenspan Says Fed Could Cut Rates, Again
With the Federal funds rate now at 1%, "substantial further conventional easings could be implemented, if the Federal Open Market Committee judged such policy actions warranted," Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan told the House Financial Services Committee on July 15. Even though "some financial firms would experience difficulties in such an environment," he said that the Fed plans to keep interest rates low "for as long as it takes."

Meanwhile, Greenspan may have made a "strategic miscalculation," says Michael Englund in the July 14 Business Week. The Federal Reserve chairman's deflation talk, charges Englund, may be causing a negative impact on business investment, negating the expected benefit of lower bond yields.

Energy Pirate Mirant Files for Bankruptcy Protection
Listing $20.6 billion in assets and $11.4 billion in debt, Atlanta-based Mirant Corp. filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection on July 14, making it the tenth largest Chapter 11 filing on record. They join not only Enron but also NRG Energy and PG&E National Energy Group in bankruptcy court.

Mirant was one of the out-of-state power pirates that was served a subpoena by Federal prosecutors last November as part of the continuing probes into the illegal trading practices that caused the California electricity crisis three years ago. In December, Mirant was accused in a separate lawsuit of "systematically" purging potentially damaging data in the case from its computers.

Top Iowa, Nebraska Farm Teaching Centers Axed
As of June 30, many Farm Belt states saw the overnight shutdown of world-famous, high-tech agriculture research and teaching centers, as a result of insane budget cuts, instead of emergency measures to save and expand economic activity. Two examples make the point:

* The Iowa State Dairy Teaching Farm will be closed by the end of the summer. It has been in operation for decades, at the College of Agriculture at Iowa State University in Ames. (The dairy program was set up by Henry Wallace—the father of FDR's Secretary of Agriculture and later Vice President Henry Wallace—who was a professor of dairy science at Iowa State, and national Agriculture Secretary under Harding and Coolidge). The college gave the order to shut down, as part of its attempt to make up for a $2.6-million deficit. The Dairy Farm houses all six breeds of milk cow, the only university farm in the nation to do this. All the animals are being sold off; and all help fired.

* In Nebraska, June 30 marked the last day of the existence of the 35-year-old South Central Research and Extension Center, of the University of Nebraska. State budget cuts ended the facility, located in Clay Center, which specialized in high-tech, irrigated cropping systems, used widely in the state, and in many parts of the world, from Egypt to Australia.

PEACE,T.

This does not explain or excuse your complete lack of civility.

And if you are offended by my "masturbating", consider that











YOU CAN ALWAYS BLOW ME.




T.

Originally posted by Shenlong

You fail to see the situation

Ok here it is Tovar:

You post topics in hopes of other people giving an intellectual reply. Other people like Eyeradi here read your topics and find them ridiculously ridiculous so they start flaming you for posting such a ridiculously ridiculous topic. Awhile in your mind you think he is debating. Eyeradi having to fail to respond to your topic but successfully succeeding in flaming you, you call him a liar for doing so and claim yourself victor. But for Eyeradi its a whole different ball game.

But eye has no balls when it comes to debating- and what, may I ask, have I posted which is "ridiculously ridiculous", and why do you find it to be so?

I personally find eye both incredibly ridiculous and mendacious- if he is any use at all to anyone, it must be on his knees or bent over a sawhorse. He does not read my posts yet feels he is somehow qualified to comment upon them- in fact, he is perversely proud of his profound ignorance.

Three strikes, you're out, eye.

And young Eduardo, you are invited to respond to the question: "Ridiculous? How so?"

PEACE,T.

[CitizenOfWorld]

Eye likes to create troubles for people. It helps him sleep well at night

your behavior is much more moderate and curteous than many who are older and more experienced than yourself.

Please permit me to observe that eyeradi8 is quite able to make his own excuses and that efforts on your part to do the same might well be superfluous.

You are correct that I should not have descended to his level regarding wildly improbable sexual encounters, which have nothing to do with the topic. My apologies to all concerned, mea culpa, I resolve to be more watchful in the future and not to replicate the error.

Actually, transforming the surface of Mars into a hospitable environment for Terrestrial-derived life is almost inevitable, given its proximity to the asteroid belt. The Martian day is (oddly) nearly identical in duration to the Terrestrial day, which should make the transition easier in some measure.

While becoming a spacefaring species will give humanity access to vast riches and safety from asteroid impact, there remain significant Terrestrial dangers to our continued survival, Ice Ages, global pandemics, volcanic and seismic disturbances, etc.

Setting up a self sustaining sister world would double our chances of long term survival, and is worth doing to provide a new frontier for our descendants.

At present, the study of Mars is instructive in proving the so-called "global warming" controversy is utter crap, as the partial pressure of CO2 on Mars is 6 millibars, some twenty times the level of Earth, and it has been so for millions of years. It remains a cool planet, in more ways than one.

TRUTH,T.