The deal with Fetisov and the rest...

[Deni]

ß èç Ïèòåðà. Òóò æå è ïðîæèâàþ. Âåçäå áûë íà Óêðàèíå, à â Îäåññó òàê è íå ñúåçäèë.

[Edited by Deni on 3rd March 2002 at 13:35]

[ILay]

Èçâèíèòå, ÷òî âëåçàþ ...
Ïðîñòî ïðèÿòíî óçíàòü, ÷òî åùå îäèí ÷åëîâåê èç Ïèòåðà çäåñü åñòü.

À Îäåññà - î÷åíü ñèìïàòè÷íûé è ìèëûé ãîðîä, ðåêîìåíäóþ ïîñåòèòü

[Deni]

Originally posted by ILay
Èçâèíèòå, ÷òî âëåçàþ ...
Ïðîñòî ïðèÿòíî óçíàòü, ÷òî åùå îäèí ÷åëîâåê èç Ïèòåðà çäåñü åñòü.


(ïîìàõàë â îòâåò ðó÷êîé)



À Îäåññà - î÷åíü ñèìïàòè÷íûé è ìèëûé ãîðîä, ðåêîìåíäóþ ïîñåòèòü

Îáÿçàòåëüíî ïîñåùó. Íà ñàìîì äåëå ÿ íà Óêðàèíå áûë â ïîñëåäíèé ðàç â äåòñòâå, ëåò ïÿòíàäöàòü íàçàä. Òàê ÷òî ñîâðåìåííîé Óêðàèíû íå âèäåë.

[Irinka_ukraine_dot_com]

ß â Ïèòåðå áûëà 4 ðàçà, è êðîìå Îäåññû æèëà íà Êàì÷àòêå ïàðó ëåò

~ÈÐÈÍÀ~

[jutka]

Isn't it ironic that Wolf's beliefs about Russia and Russians reveal HIM to be the believer in mass propaganda?

Wolf,
I've been living in Canada for 14 years, and it is North Americans who are rabid consumers of propaganda! Eastern Europeans don't believe in it, because back in the days it was so much in-your-face that it was OBVIOUS that it was propaganda. Here it is more subtle and hence more powerful.

[jutka]

Canadian Wolf,
Smarten up. You're not doing a great favour to Canadians with your "argument".

[Deni]

Originally posted by jutka
Eastern Europeans don't believe in it, because back in the days it was so much in-your-face that it was OBVIOUS that it was propaganda. Here it is more subtle and hence more powerful.

jutka,

I agree with you mostly. But I think some kind of propaganda exists in any country, often quite spontaneous (based on pure biological instincts (defense of territory, defense of tribe and so on)). And in any country people often inclined to believe in propaganda, simply because propaganda is usually based on what they want to believe. But I think Russians are inclined to believe in it no more than Canadians are. And, in much degree we, people from Eastern Europe, really have some kind of "inoculation" against it and so have more sophisticated attitude to any form of propaganda.
Wolf's problem is he doesn't realize how much in his position is from the propaganda of his country.


[Edited by Deni on 3rd March 2002 at 22:46]