Name that park

[glock_girl]

I write this with a stupid grin on my face because I haven't been able to locate the name of this place ANYWHERE.
Even Dmitriy didn't know the name of it.

OK, I'm sorry to revive the thought, but do you remember in 007 Goldeneye the park where they met Trevelyan (when they realized he was a traitor). This park appeared to be full of soviet sculptures - including one statue of Lenin.

What is the name of this park and where is it located in Russia? I thought it was St. Petersburg.

Thanks for the help.
Amy

[Dr_Woland]

Hmmmm, that's a hard one.

I saw "Goldeneye" on a British Airways flight from Moscow to London, and the opening scene in which hundreds of Red Army soldiers are blown to pieces before JB has uttered a word so greatly annoyed the Russian girl sitting next to me (with some reason, I felt - you wouldn't show "Death Of A Princess" on a flight to the Gulf?) that she and I spent the rest of the flight discussing this, and I didn't see the film. She was, though, quite pretty :-)

There is a sort of "park" in Moscow pseudo-ironically called "The Pantheon Of Fallen Heroes", and it's where all the really big soviet-era statues were dragged after they were chopped-down, uprooted, or pulled-over. (btw, the famous theory that the statue of KGB-founder Dzerzhinsky was made of melted-down bullion - it was in the middle of a huge traffic-circulatory outside KGB HQ, so no-one dared to check! - proved false. He was hollow aluminium, how appropriate!). This park is located behind the Central House Of Artists, which is directly opposite the Main Entrance to Gorky Park (metro - Park Kultury and walk across the river-bridge).

The only thing I can think of like this in St P is the "Museum of Necropolis Sculpture" which is outside the Alexander Nevsky Monastery - or maybe "was"? It's been years since I visited it, I'm not very interested in statues of Lenin :-) ILay??

Dr W.

[glock_girl]

Great Dr. Woland! THanks!

I am sure it is the park where the chopped off soviet statues, etc. got stuck.

There are many things in there like that - I am sure that's what it is. I saw big stars, hammers/sicles, etc. lying in this place.

Thanks for the input!!

[ILay]

Regarding the park in JB movie:

I can not remember anything of that kind in St. Petersburg.
(Francly the statues seemed like they were made of papier-mache).

The old cemetery near Alexander Nevsky Monastery exists but I don't think I saw Lenin statues there

Regarding the movie itself:

the St.Petersburg part seems like mixture of scenes filmed in the city and somethere else.

Then he comes to St. Petersburg: the building is not the airport building. Francly it seems like a place outside Russia (according to the cars etc.)

The bridge they drive is in St.Petersburg.

The IBM shop - most probably not.

The park ???

Then the scene with the tank - St. Petersburg (though I don't think we ever had or will have a 'flying horse' statue )

The Hotel JB stays in is not St.Petersburg and, most probably, not Russia.

I don't think my message helps

[glock_girl]

Ilay, you are too funny.

Thanks for spouting out all that info...
And quite honestly it does help me out...

It helps me to realize that I should not watch these movies from Hollywood and think that because it says "Park in St. Petersburg" that it actually IS in St. Pete. What was I thinking??

Amy

[ILay]

He-he.

Some other facts from the same movie:

* you remember then the russian girl - operator of 'Golde Eye' enters the church in St.Pete?

The church is CATHOLIC.

(there are of course catholic churches in St.Pete but why do they show first an orthodox cathedral)

* there is no such nationality or ethnic origin as 'cosack' (or kozak).

There is a nationality of 'Kazah' (inhabitants of Kazahstan) but Trevelyan does not look like one of this origin. (btw it's not the first movie I encounter this. Some strange tribe of kozaks unknown to ethnographists . It's same common as the Russian last names in the movies - General Gogol, General Pushkin etc.)

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But the most hard one was then a couple of weeks before I saw a film of the serial 'Myrder she wrote':

the first frames. View of Kremlin and big letters beneath: LENINGRAD

[glock_girl]

Ilay!

That's hilarious!! You must be one of those people who can pick out small, little incorrect details when you are watching TV or movies. I do it too, though for Russia, I would not know it. Doesn't stuff like that make you crazy???

Amy