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Old 9th August 2008, 14:19
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Dear, you are talking to yourself. Not to me. I have a Ukranian surname and was born in Kazakhstan.
I cannot understand why did you decide that I'm a Russian patriot? Who told you that?

So, tell me why are you talking so much about the Russians? Doctors usually say that people are talking much about either love or fear (maybe subconsious). What is Russia for you -- love or fear? (But please just answer the question without thinking that I'm trying to convince you of something. I'm really not).

And one more question: why are telling me so many words about KGB and the fact that Russians think that they scare everybody? I'm not interested in it. I asked you only about you, not about Russians and somebody else.
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Old 9th August 2008, 14:38
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Dear, you are talking to yourself. Not to me. I have a Ukranian surname and was born in Kazakhstan.
I cannot understand why did you decide that I'm a Russian patriot? Who told you that?

So, tell me why are you talking so much about the Russians? Doctors usually say that people are talking much about either love or fear (maybe subconsious). What is Russia for you -- love or fear? (But please just answer the question without thinking that I'm trying to convince you of something. I'm really not).

And one more question: why are telling me so many words about KGB and the fact that Russians think that they scare everybody? I'm not interested in it. I asked you only about you, not about Russians and somebody else.
Clever move!
Do u know Russian most distinguishing feature? When they cannot to say more they are talking about doctors. This is the old NKVD tradition.

OK Ivan. Russia for me is a territory of fascism. How can I love it? D U understand? You know that Russians like to talk about another nations like about enemies. It's a fact isn't it? So, how can I like it?
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Old 9th August 2008, 15:44
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I cannot understand why did you decide that I'm a Russian patriot? .
Vanya I didn't say u are russian patriot. U suppose I am scared so I answer u
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Old 9th August 2008, 17:25
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Yes, you answered but you also said so many words about KGB and Universe which I didn't even mean and was not going to think of.

About faschism. Yes, there are people that like faschists and don't like others nations. How many? I know about a few hundreds young people in Russia, they all hate faschism which had been killed by their grandfathers. After visiting a doctor you will also be able to see them in the streets. Especially before 9th of May. Hiow to see them? I think you know.

Faschists -- they exist. Really. Everywhere. Even in Germany where faschism is a break of law. In Russia too. In USA. in the Baltic states. In Iran. In Ukraine.

One important thing: I'm going to be an advocate for Russia or any other country and I'm not going to convince you of something. Please, read carefully before commenting and don't comment opinions which I didn't express.
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Old 11th August 2008, 16:05
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Yes, you answered but you also said so many words about KGB and Universe


know about a few hundreds young people in Russia, they all hate faschism .


About Universe? I said that Russians think they are THE HUB OF THE UNIVERSE.


200 antifas u know against 50 000 boneheads oficcialy?
Antifa movement in Russia is weak. What is a number of antifascists in Russia?
Why people celebrating May 9 can not stop fascism in Russia? So celebrating May 9 is only profanation. The reason to drink more vodka than other days.

AND:
Ask people on the Red Square in Moscow during May 9: "what do u think about newcomers from Asia or Africa?"
WHAT they will answer?

I know about Antifa-movement in Russia. They have not the ghost of a chance of course. But they are fighting.
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Old 11th August 2008, 19:11
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You confuse faschism and nationalism. These are different things. I can explain what is the difference.

Antifa is weak. Ok. Is the fashist movement strong? Evidence, please. Common words like "9th of May is profanation" is not an evidence, it's just words and values.

And what would you say about the SS marches in Riga and Tallinn. I'm going to prove you anything, I'm just interested in opinion on it.
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Old 14th August 2008, 19:02
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You confuse faschism and nationalism. These are different things. I can explain what is the difference.

Antifa is weak. Ok. Is the fashist movement strong? Evidence, please. Common words like "9th of May is profanation" is not an evidence, it's just words and values.

And what would you say about the SS marches in Riga and Tallinn. I'm going to prove you anything, I'm just interested in opinion on it.
No I do not.
Fascism is a last stage of nationalism. It's a logical order, logical result. Evidence??? Vanya open ur eyes. Have u ever seen the country where fascist and extremist religious sites are so active? Just in Russia. What is it? Normal nationalism? What can u say about movements like DPNi, Georgevts, cossacs etc.? Who are they? And Georgvets? Are they Christians? Sorry, I think they are not.
SS marches in Baltic states? Of course they are wrong. But there is no difference beetween Soviet Communists and fascism. Oficially in Baltic states fascist and soviet symbols are prohibited. In Russia fascist marches also take place. Russians killed many people in Baltic states. It's a fact. Not personally Stalin. Stalin didn't shoot people. Soviet punishers, who are they??? Uzbeks? Tadjics? Turkmens? Chukchs? Marsians? Who are these soviet officers who commanded to kill latvijans or estonians? Ivanov, Petroff, Sidoff?
Yes in Russia fascist movement is strong and widespread. It kills Russia and Russian society.
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